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[MERIT] 03-20-2011 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021281)
Make an assumptions since that is what you do so well :finger:

Well it was funny how in a way the pissing contest was a result of your misconception, but we cleared that up yet you continued the pissing contest with a slight insult.

Clearly this is about oil regardless of what The Monkey is saying. Why else would the government get involved with this ****? They turn a blind eye to other situations in Africa where people are actually being slaughtered. Even heard the idea of being paid back in oil for our contribution.

Other parts of Africa, like Darfur? Too bad the US didn't take any action, either on it's own or as a part of the UN to try to help the conflict.
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1564 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just face it, you just like to bitch and complain. If the US did intervene in Darfur with military action, or any other conflict for that matter, you would start spouting off how it is only about oil.

You seem to have this self-righteous sense that you're the only one in the world who is against the people of Africa and the Middle East having to endure oppression and suffering. But when anything is done to help, you complain about ulterior motives. While their may be ulterior motives, if even the slightest bit of adancement can be made to help relieve the citizens who are suffereing, then we should atleast try to look for a silver lining, seeing as how we can do nothing to change the way our government is going to respond to international conflict.

The Monkey 03-20-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021233)
Please if you think it is not about oil you are blind. Obviously it is not about being humanitarians because if that was the case we would get involved with other issues in Africa.

I'm going to pose a very simple question that even a person like you can understand: In what way does the West benefit "though oil" by intervening in Libya?

Now I'm going to ask you a bit more complicated question, but I hope your intellect can grasp it anyway: What exactly do you mean, "by oil", in these circumstances? The West will steal the oil? The West will ensure that the oil price is lowered? That it's raised?

Buzzov*en 03-20-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1021295)
Other parts of Africa, like Darfur? Too bad the US didn't take any action, either on it's own or as a part of the UN to try to help the conflict.
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1564 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just face it, you just like to bitch and complain. If the US did intervene in Darfur with military action, or any other conflict for that matter, you would start spouting off how it is only about oil.

You seem to have this self-righteous sense that you're the only one in the world who is against the people of Africa and the Middle East having to endure oppression and suffering. But when anything is done to help, you complain about ulterior motives. While their may be ulterior motives, if even the slightest bit of adancement can be made to help relieve the citizens who are suffereing, then we should atleast try to look for a silver lining, seeing as how we can do nothing to change the way our government is going to respond to international conflict.

Again with more assumptions. Give it a rest. If they actually took action in Darfur I would not complain at all.

Buzzov*en 03-20-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 1021310)
I'm going to pose a very simple question that even a person like you can understand: In what way does the West benefit "though oil" by intervening in Libya?

Now I'm going to ask you a bit more complicated question, but I hope your intellect can grasp it anyway: What exactly do you mean, "by oil", in these circumstances? The West will steal the oil? The West will ensure that the oil price is lowered? That it's raised?

Please never talk about intellect and spell incorrectly because it just makes you look like an ass.
They put someone in power who they can trust they will benefit.

[MERIT] 03-20-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021319)
If they actually took action in Darfur I would not complain at all.

Yet you complain when they take action in Libya. Quite the conundrum...

Buzzov*en 03-20-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1021322)
Yet you complain when they take action in Libya. Quite the conundrum...

Jesus are you seriously overlooking what I said earlier? I gave a reason why they are getting involved with Libya. There is no benefit for the US for intervening with Darfur.

[MERIT] 03-20-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021324)
Jesus are you seriously overlooking what I said earlier? I gave a reason why they are getting involved with Libya. There is no benefit for the US for intervening with Darfur.

So you see possibly 'getting oil' as a benefit (which will not happen, as we will actually end up paying MORE for oil during a conflict with an oil-producing nation), but you see no benefit of intervening in Darfur and stopping millions of innocent citizens from being raped, mutilated, and killed? And while you see no benefit for intervening in Darfur, you say that you would not be against it?
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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021319)
If they actually took action in Darfur I would not complain at all.


Buzzov*en 03-20-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1021326)
So you see possibly 'getting oil' as a benefit (which will not happen, as we will actually end up paying MORE for oil during a conflict with an oil-producing nation), but you see no benefit of intervening in Darfur and stopping millions of innocent citizens from being raped, mutilated, and killed? You have some skewed priorities.

:banghead: you are either just extremely stupid or trying to put words in my mouth to be obnoxious.

[MERIT] 03-20-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzzov*en (Post 1021327)
:banghead: you are either just extremely stupid or trying to put words in my mouth to be obnoxious.

Actually neither. I'm trying to understand your thought process, which appears to be quite contradictory.

Buzzov*en 03-20-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by oojay (Post 1021329)
Actually neither. I'm trying to understand your thought process, which appears to be quite contradictory.

Actually it is not, but you continue to think it is.


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