Religious people: what is your level of observance?

**Goofle** · 12-20-2011, 06:24 PM

I don't dismiss it at all. I hope there is a God. Would be great. But I will not allow myself to believe in something that is basically an idea. I wished Santa was real, but as soon as I was able to think beyond "How many presents am I getting" you realise that the idea is ridiculous.

I will also not allow myself to live by the rules of religious teaching, which we all know are basically man made.

TheBig3 · 12-20-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TomClancy11

I don't dismiss it at all. I hope there is a God. Would be great. But I will not allow myself to believe in something that is basically an idea. I wished Santa was real, but as soon as I was able to think beyond "How many presents am I getting" you realise that the idea is ridiculous.

I will also not allow myself to live by the rules of religious teaching, which we all know are basically man made.

See this is what I'm talking about. No one said anything about religious teachings. You're thinking of a Christian God.

God =/= religion.
God =/= teachings.

And theres no telling what god is or what its intentions are, so the whole "presents" analogy is again Christian.

Bane of your existence · 12-20-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

See this is what I'm talking about. No one said anything about religious teachings. You're thinking of a Christian God.

God =/= religion.
God =/= teachings.

And theres no telling what god is or what its intentions are, so the whole "presents" analogy is again Christian.

^ That.
Assuming there is anything like a heaven or hell is completely separate from whether or not God exists. Heaven isn't necessary for God to be.

Janzoon, your definition works for me. I think "God" implies both creation and sentience.

**Goofle** · 12-20-2011, 06:40 PM

As am I Jaz.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

See this is what I'm talking about. No one said anything about religious teachings. You're thinking of a Christian God.

God =/= religion.
God =/= teachings.

And theres no telling what god is or what its intentions are, so the whole "presents" analogy is again Christian.

Okay, you really are failing to grasp the simplest of ideas here.

Your post is basically telling me that there is only religious teachings in Christianity because you assume that when I say "religious teachings" am I not speaking on broader terms.

Secondly, if we are talking about God and not religion, you still have a belief of something that is not proven to even the most basic extent. Therefore you have these beliefs for no apparent reason.

I get the feeling being religious is the new alternative viewpoint that some use to appear to be more worldly and intelligent.

TheBig3 · 12-20-2011, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TomClancy11

Okay, you really are failing to grasp the simplest of ideas here.

I just want to pinch your delightful little cheeks.

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Your post is basically telling me that there is only religious teachings in Christianity because you assume that when I say "religious teachings" am I not speaking on broader terms.

Secondly, if we are talking about God and not religion, you still have a belief of something that is not proven to even the most basic extent. Therefore you have these beliefs for no apparent reason.

I get the feeling being religious is the new alternative viewpoint that some use to appear to be more worldly and intelligent.

So why don't you tell me some Islamic laws you don't subscribe to. And Tao and Rastafarian and Gnostic laws you think are foolish.

Howard the Duck · 12-20-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Not all religions are the same. Buddhists doesn't believe in a creator, yet they believe in rebirth and an after-life.

I guess you haven't realized that by being an atheist, you too believe in something that has yet to be definitively proven.

much as I like to believe in reincarnation, i have to confess i have no memories of a past life

Buddhism in its purest form, is merely a philosophy, Buddha never proclaimed himself God, unlike Jesus

only later when the Taoists came in, only was Buddha worshipped as a God

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You need to come down to Earth a little, Tom. All religions are illogical? What an arrogant and illogical statement. There are some religions, like Buddhism, that consist of some very deep wisdom. If more people thought like a Buddhist Monk, the world would be a better place.

And there are some pretty intriguing cases that support rebirth.

such as?

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence

There are highly touted theories that we can physically be in multiple places at the same time. We have no idea when our universe began or how big it is, or what's outside of it. We literally don't know anything about our physical world. But you're going to just go out on a limb here and claim that it's foolish to think that a God is possible. The only foolish thing is to claim that you know that anything does or does not exist.

a multi-verse only really implies there are multiple versions of yourself, and yourself in another universe would be in a divergent situation, because of the paths your alternate versions chose

they are not necessarily "you"

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It's foolish to expect somebody to assume based on nothing.

I am here, right now. Not in two places.

see above

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I just want to pinch your delightful little cheeks.

So why don't you tell me some Islamic laws you don't subscribe to. And Tao and Rastafarian and Gnostic laws you think are foolish.

Taoist, in its purest form, also, is merely a philosophy - read the "Tao Te Ching" if you don't believe me

only when some religious fuddy-duddies mixed in Indian mysticism was it a religion

View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion	20	43.48%
A little observant	3	6.52%
Middle-of-the-road observance	11	23.91%
Strict adherence to religious rules	4	8.70%
Don't know	8	17.39%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll