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View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion 20 43.48%
A little observant 3 6.52%
Middle-of-the-road observance 11 23.91%
Strict adherence to religious rules 4 8.70%
Don't know 8 17.39%
Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-20-2011, 08:27 PM   #431 (permalink)
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This is the athiest argument I don't understand. We haven't even really figured out what reality is yet, and athiests, people of 'science' mind you, walk around all cockstrong like they know anything about anything. The world we see is just a movie of what is. We don't know the half.
Basically, why can't theists and atheists alike just admit that they don't know the answer to whether or not God exists?
Well, you fail on several levels here, I am not Atheist, Reality is Subjective, Atheism is not based on science, and there is nothing to "know", only to perceive.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:39 PM   #432 (permalink)
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Uh, well I guess I'm with you assuming by supernatural you mean beyond what we would experience on earth.

I don't necessarily concede that god governs the universe. I sometimes wonder if its governs, set processes in motion, or is observing as mutations are allowed to fully playout.
That's why I put the "and/or" there. I was leaving room for the Deists and whatnot.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:54 PM   #433 (permalink)
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I think Christianity deserves a little credit. It looks good compared to the ancient mythologies.
It is ancient mythology.

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For quite possibly the first time in human history, messages of good morals were being preached.
Not in the Old Testament (yikes). And the New Testament was written after the Ramayana. So I'd have to go with a "no" on that claim.

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And there were some scientific claims in the bible that were ahead of it's time, for example, it says that life on earth began in the ocean.
No it doesn't. According to Genesis, God put plants on dry land on the third day. He didn't get around to putting anything in the ocean until day five.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:59 PM   #434 (permalink)
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Taoist, in its purest form, also, is merely a philosophy - read the "Tao Te Ching" if you don't believe me

only when some religious fuddy-duddies mixed in Indian mysticism was it a religion
So it is a religion then?

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That's why I put the "and/or" there. I was leaving room for the Deists and whatnot.
Yeah I mean I don't know what your daily intake has to do with it but vegans, i guess, are a religion too.
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It is ancient mythology.


Not in the Old Testament (yikes). And the New Testament was written after the Ramayana. So I'd have to go with a "no" on that claim.


No it doesn't. According to Genesis, God put plants on dry land on the third day. He didn't get around to putting anything in the ocean until day five.
I was talking about the mythology that came before it.

And I said "possibly", not "definitely". Doesn't change the fact that it was one of the first.

And that only validates the science of the bible even more. Considering plants did exist before animals. Thanks.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:48 PM   #438 (permalink)
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So it is a religion then?
depends on which followers you talk to

majority are those into burning incense and paper, praying to idols, and speaking to "mediums"

truer subscribers who only see it as a philosophy only, like myself, will do otherwise
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:52 PM   #439 (permalink)
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I was talking about the mythology that came before it.

And I said "possibly", not "definitely". Doesn't change the fact that it was one of the first.
Was it? You haven't exactly made a strong case here.

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And that only validates the science of the bible even more. Considering plants did exist before animals. Thanks.
And plants existed before to sun too, right? That's what the Bible says so it must be true.
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