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View Poll Results: Your level of observance?
Non-practicing/secular form of religion 20 43.48%
A little observant 3 6.52%
Middle-of-the-road observance 11 23.91%
Strict adherence to religious rules 4 8.70%
Don't know 8 17.39%
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:20 PM   #381 (permalink)
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Really? You think, given all you know, that there is nothing else going on out there is the most logical conclusion?
How is believing in a god more illogical than not believing?
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:49 PM   #382 (permalink)
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There was a good point made about prayer serving a therapeutic purpose. If it makes someone feel better, then I'd say it's a good thing. Believe in god if you want, be an atheist if you want; one isnt more sane or logical than the other. God hasn't been undeniably disproven, and it hasn't been proven.

I think atheism has become somewhat of a trend. I know a lot of young people who haven't put any thought into this kind of thing, yet they just want to call themselves an atheist because it goes along with their desire to be a rebel and to go against the grain.
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Old 12-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #383 (permalink)
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When did I say there is "nothing else going on out there"? There are probably loads of things going on "out there" that we're unaware of. I don't see how that has anything to do with the specific claim of there being a god though.
Hey Angry. Why the claws?

I'm just saying your thought process (or at least the way your explained it) sounds like it could have been the same used by an Athenian to explain lightning. There can't be logic with things we can't know.
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Hey Angry. Why the claws?
Try reading posts in a more cheerful manner, that tends to help.
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There was a good point made about prayer serving a therapeutic purpose. If it makes someone feel better, then I'd say it's a good thing. Believe in god if you want, be an atheist if you want; one isnt more sane or logical than the other. God hasn't been undeniably disproven, and it hasn't been proven.

I think atheism has become somewhat of a trend. I know a lot of young people who haven't put any thought into this kind of thing, yet they just want to call themselves an atheist because it goes along with their desire to be a rebel and to go against the grain.
Being an atheist is a million times more sensible than believing in a God. To have no proof indicates which viewpoint to take, still believing despite that is a sign of insanity itself.
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Being an atheist is a million times more sensible than believing in a God. To have no proof indicates which viewpoint to take, still believing despite that is a sign of insanity itself.
I think you're talking about a Christian God.
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No, just a god. Any of them. Which ever you think exists.
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No, just a god. Any of them. Which ever you think exists.
Just so I'm on the same page.

- Thinking there could be something out there is lunacy because I don't have proof.

- And believing there is nothing out there is solidly sane because you don't have proof?
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You'd have to define your idea of god.

An atheist has no definitive proof that says there isn't a god. You have proven your biased opinion.
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Okay, both of you are dragging down my faith in the human race.

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Just so I'm on the same page.

- Thinking there could be something out there is lunacy because I don't have proof.

- And believing there is nothing out there is solidly sane because you don't have proof?
Thinking there may possibly be something out there is fine. I don't believe in a God, but I think it is possible.

Believing in something without any proof is massively insane. Cripplingly destructive.

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You'd have to define your idea of god.

An atheist has no definitive proof that says there isn't a god. You have proven your biased opinion.
Religion isn't that deep of a subject. It's pretty cut and dry. Believe or not. God in any shape or form.

Also, I don't have to prove that the lack of proof proves that that I need more proof. Pretty crazy.
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