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Bane of your existence 12-20-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SIRIUSB (Post 1133923)
I would doubt my sanity, because something like that cannot happen due to any kind of supernatural occurrence. :bonkhead:

Cannot happen?
This is the athiest argument I don't understand. We haven't even really figured out what reality is yet, and athiests, people of 'science' mind you, walk around all cockstrong like they know anything about anything. The world we see is just a movie of what is. We don't know the half.
Basically, why can't theists and atheists alike just admit that they don't know the answer to whether or not God exists?

Goofle 12-20-2011 12:08 PM

Erm... God may or may not exist, but I would rather maintain my sanity and assume that there isn't an all knowing super being of which there is zero proof of his existence.

I think if I died and it turned out that god did in fact exist, he would more likely accept me, an atheist, into his kingdom for having the common sense to disbelieve an obvious work of fiction that would more than likely read to him like a a tabloid smear story.

Rubato 12-20-2011 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence (Post 1134902)
Basically, why can't theists and atheists alike just admit that they don't know the answer to whether or not God exists?

Because agnosticism is boring, if someone has a belief to prove it makes the world a little more interesting.

Bane of your existence 12-20-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TomClancy11 (Post 1134908)
Erm... God may or may not exist, but I would rather maintain my sanity and assume that there isn't an all knowing super being of which there is zero proof of his existence.

I think if I died and it turned out that god did in fact exist, he would more likely accept me, an atheist, into his kingdom for having the common sense to disbelieve an obvious work of fiction that would more than likely read to him like a a tabloid smear story.

But I'm the opposite. I have no idea what the universal truths are, or whether or not God exists. But I relieve stress and maintain my sanity by praying. I'm not sure if there is some sentient being that's getting the message, or if I'm just talking to myself. But it's therapeutic for me.


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Originally Posted by Rubato (Post 1134910)
Because agnosticism is boring, if someone has a belief to prove it makes the world a little more interesting.

Boring, but why convict yourself to something that you don't know? I think agnosticism is more logical than atheism.

Janszoon 12-20-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence (Post 1134902)
Cannot happen?
This is the athiest argument I don't understand. We haven't even really figured out what reality is yet, and athiests, people of 'science' mind you, walk around all cockstrong like they know anything about anything. The world we see is just a movie of what is. We don't know the half.
Basically, why can't theists and atheists alike just admit that they don't know the answer to whether or not God exists?

I'm an atheist and I'm more than happy to admit I don't know anything for sure. Nevertheless, based on the available information, I don't think god exists. It doesn't mean I'm incapable of changing my mind on the issue, just that this is the conclusion I find most reasonable based on the evidence.

TheBig3 12-20-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1134930)
I'm an atheist and I'm more than happy to admit I don't know anything for sure. Nevertheless, based on the available information, I don't think god exists. It doesn't mean I'm incapable of changing my mind on the issue, just that this is the conclusion I find most reasonable based on the evidence.

Really? You think, given all you know, that there is nothing else going on out there is the most logical conclusion?

Goofle 12-20-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence (Post 1134927)
But I'm the opposite. I have no idea what the universal truths are, or whether or not God exists. But I relieve stress and maintain my sanity by praying. I'm not sure if there is some sentient being that's getting the message, or if I'm just talking to myself. But it's therapeutic for me.

So you are agnostic but waste time praying. Doesn't make sense to me but I am a soulless bigger.

Goofle 12-20-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1134933)
Really? You think, given all you know, that there is nothing else going on out there is the most logical conclusion?

It's the only logical conclusion.

Janszoon 12-20-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1134933)
Really? You think, given all you know, that there is nothing else going on out there is the most logical conclusion?

When did I say there is "nothing else going on out there"? There are probably loads of things going on "out there" that we're unaware of. I don't see how that has anything to do with the specific claim of there being a god though.

Rubato 12-20-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bane of your existence (Post 1134927)
Boring, but why convict yourself to something that you don't know? I think agnosticism is more logical than atheism.

why abandon belief just so you can't be wrong?


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