Was JFK a good president?

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 01-31-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

He sucked like every other leader of a country.

(sometimes when you have a simple truth to express, it's best to be succinct)

...Well, there's always a backwoods for people who don't like government figures. You two can live in nature, and raise a family.

There have been good presidents. FDR is a prime example of a good president. If you read up on what he did, he did a lot of active things to help US cope with the great depression. His new deal was probably as radical, and hands on, as a president will ever get to making real change for the people.

Kennedy did a lot of things, too, but, I don't feel they are particularly substantial(with the exception of race relations, but I'd hope there wouldn't be any president foolish enough to go against what MLK Jr was doing) in comparison. The man on the moon was a huge step, but really a symbolic victory than an actual tangible real world event.

As harsh as it sounds, he just kind of died at the right place at the right time. He really didn't have time to fail, and if Vietnam would have went the same way, and it inevitably was going to, he'd be just about as highly respected of a president as LBJ(who also was big on supporting racial relations, if memory serves).

In those years he did good, but no where near his legend. He was a lot like Obama very big on expectations, but I'd give him the nod over Obama, because he actually met a lot of his own.

TockTockTock · 01-31-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

...Well, there's always a backwoods for people who don't like government figures. You two can live in nature, and raise a family.

There have been good presidents. FDR is a prime example of a good president. If you read up on what he did, he did a lot of active things to help US cope with the great depression. His new deal was probably as radical, and hands on, as a president will ever get to making real change for the people.

Kennedy did a lot of things, too, but, I don't feel they are particularly substantial(with the exception of race relations, but I'd hope there wouldn't be any president foolish enough to go against what MLK Jr was doing) in comparison. The man on the moon was a huge step, but really a symbolic victory than an actual tangible real world event.

As harsh as it sounds, he just kind of died at the right place at the right time. He really didn't have time to fail, and if Vietnam would have went the same way, and it inevitably was going to, he'd be just about as highly respected of a president as LBJ(who also was big on supporting racial relations, if memory serves).

In those years he did good, but no where near his legend. He was a lot like Obama very big on expectations, but I'd give him the nod over Obama, because he actually met a lot of his own.

I think Obama's doing an alright job. He just needs to be a bit more bipartisan. By the way, FDR was good, but his cousin Teddy was the best there ever was.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 01-31-2011, 08:12 PM

Teddy was a tad too military for my liking. FDR was such an amazing president that they had to actually change the rules, cause he'd probably have been president until he died.

4 terms, my friends. Only president to pull that off.

TockTockTock · 01-31-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skaligojurah

Teddy was a tad too military for my liking. FDR was such an amazing president that they had to actually change the rules, cause he'd probably have been president until he died.

4 terms, my friends. Only president to pull that off.

Teddy also preserved so much land, though, but he still was an avid hunter. Everything about him was a contradiction, but he loved his country, and he didn't care too much for political parties. FDR is up there as one of my favorites. Unfortunately, living in Alabama and saying that gets me labeled as a "socialist."

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 01-31-2011, 08:22 PM

Well, I wouldn't be offended. I very much lean towards socialism in my political philosophy, personally.

Teddy was also involved in the Spanish-American war which is quite possibly one of the greediest, and most vile things America has ever done.