Scarlett O'Hara

I'm wondering, whether or not you lovely people believe that feminism is still needed? Some might say that men and women generally are equal in regards to work and opportunities.

The other debate I'd like to propose is, what really defines a feminist? Can it be defined?

I believe that it's not about burning bras and hating men. It's about women becoming empowered and empowering their own to be what they want to be. Yes women can do anything these days, but it doesn't mean it's easier. We are expected to run households, look after children, manage finances, have a career and a husband. No wonder they can't cope. No wonder rates of depression are so high. With all the benefits of equal rights has come a LOT of responsibility.

Were women really destined to be carers and child bearers? Is it really in the Earth's best interests to produce any more children? I don't believe it is. I think tighter controls should be enforced and more focus be on feeding the people that already exist who live in dire situations. I may be rambling but I really think people put down feminism without realising what it has done for women in the past and what it could still do presently to improve women's welfare.

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someonecompletelyrandom

This is going to end in a ban. I can just feel it.

Sorry, carry on.

Scarlett O'Hara

What, me being banned? If people can listen to each other and not make things personal there should be none of that.

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someonecompletelyrandom

No not you specifically. People on here just take this feminism stuff really personal and just hoping it won't turn ugly.

GuitarBizarre

Try hanging out on an IRC channel full of lesbians, gays, straights, bisexuals, pansexuals, asexuals, nonsexuals, and transgender lesbians.

Then tell them that you really can't be bothered keeping track of everyones preferred pronouns, and that unless they happen to be a particularly memorable person, they'll be referred to as 'he' for simplicity.

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Dr_Rez

Personally I get a little ticked when women complain about a right they may not have (nothing in particular) yet they still dont have the "right" to get drafted. Now I realize men are typically physically more capable but its not like every job in the military is ripping through dessert sands wielding an m16 and field gear.

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Scarlett O'Hara

It's not like all women are tiny and dainty who cannot lift a weapon. So yeah, they should definitely be able to get drafted.

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Dr_Rez

I did not mean they are, hence I said typically not always. For instance the average weight of a male is more so than a female.

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Scarlett O'Hara

Yip I'm sure it is. But if a women of substantial weight and fitness could handle it then they should go for it. Like anything, you need to be sure of what you're getting yourself into.

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GuitarBizarre

There are inequalities that still exist, and likely more for women than men, but by and large equality has been achieved in most civilised societies. What still has to be achieved is the more backwards misogynist societies catching up in that regard, and in places like japan, a cultural shift away from misogyny is taking a long time to really take hold. The younger generation are starting to get it, but among the more violent youth and the old timers, its still a prevalent social attitude that women should be a certain way and act accordingly.

Bear in mind we want to avoid positive discrimination but we should also take into account that for a large number of things women are simply different. An example would be politics. There are less women in politics, but that by and large seems to be because women don't WANT to be in politics. Canada has a scheme whereby women are given cash incentives in the forms of higher salaries and benefits, if they choose to work in fields where women are currently 'underrepresented', but these cash incentives in my mind are a terrible idea, because they work on the assumption that all things should have a 50/50 gender split, which will result in women being coerced by cash incentives, into careers and jobs that they're not interested in and not suited for. (And, according to a canadian friend of mine, already has)

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