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Old 02-18-2014, 03:07 PM   #431 (permalink)
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That article is like 4 years old, but still a better improvement on the wage gap than in Canada. Men are getting about 20% more for the same work. Equal Pay For Equal Work? A Look At The Wage Gap Between Men And Women In The U.S. And Canada

But what happens if the tables become completely turned? Will men then cry out and say they are "oppressed" because they are no longer being paid more than women? That's a problem created when one sex gets paid more than the other. Men or women should not be getting paid more than the opposite sex for the same job.
i dont think men would cry out because of oppression because i think in general women are much more whiny and dramatic.

the jobs with the most disparity are sales related jobs which i can understand. i think men are more likely to have skills that relate to sales. those skills bein assertiveness, bull****ting, intimidation, etc. men tend to have much more charisma in my opinion

not sure why there would be such a $$$ difference in surgeons or doctors. like the article says though women are choosing more entry/lower level jobs within hospitals. i also wonder if tenure is considered in any of these stats. obviously someone bein there 10 yrs is prob makin more than someone there for 1 yr.

plus i do think men are generally better at negotiatin which im sure contributes a small amount. that men would be able to negotiate a higher salary.


but with all stats like this regarding gender or race theres a big time disconnect between huge sample sizes and individual instances. its like when i argue with ppl about racial stuff... the other side of the argument is always 'the system failed so and so' or 'they have bad schools and the government doesnt care about their community, etc'. or minorities and women are under represented in certain job markets or areas... well ok, get to the individual level. theres 10 ppl applyin for the job and 7 are white males. is it their fault they went to college and got a good degree and worked hard to get where they are at??

im gonna go way off track here so i will just stop now but a small part of the reason i hate feminism is cause i see it as a way to casually dismiss the accomplishments of white straight men and on some levels make the weak minded white men feel guilty of their success. its a small part of my hate but its there none the less
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:56 AM   #432 (permalink)
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It's gone viral, so I guess you may have seen it already, but still.
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Old 02-19-2014, 10:45 AM   #435 (permalink)
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i dont think men would cry out because of oppression because i think in general women are much more whiny and dramatic.

the jobs with the most disparity are sales related jobs which i can understand. i think men are more likely to have skills that relate to sales. those skills bein assertiveness, bull****ting, intimidation, etc. men tend to have much more charisma in my opinion
I don't know what you said holds water because most retail jobs start out with minimal wage and increases are come with time and are not based on gender. Considering state laws it is illegal to discriminate based on race so the pay is equal especially in retail. Being assertive, intimidating etc. isn't gender specific. I don't know if you are still living in the 18th century but today women can be just as assertive.
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I don't know what you said holds water because most retail jobs start out with minimal wage and increases are come with time and are not based on gender. Considering state laws it is illegal to discriminate based on race so the pay is equal especially in retail. Being assertive, intimidating etc. isn't gender specific. I don't know if you are still living in the 18th century but today women can be just as assertive.
Well they can be I just don't think generally they are
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I liked that video, Briks. It reminds me of something similar except it was set in a world where homosexuality was the norm and there was a suburban family who had a straight child who got bullied. Great short, also on youtube. Wish I could remember the name.

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Briks I didn't like the vid the chubby chick annoued me


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Many feminists have a victim complex n sub consciously make themself oppressed mainly when it comes to social issues n I hope I can help at least one of them see the ligyt. If not then their loss
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im gonna go way off track here so i will just stop now but a small part of the reason i hate feminism is cause i see it as a way to casually dismiss the accomplishments of white straight men and on some levels make the weak minded white men feel guilty of their success. its a small part of my hate but its there none the less
You're seeing it wrong, then. Making straight white men feel guilty of their success and dismissing their accomplishments wouldn't serve any purpose. At all. Only a very petty person would gain a false sense of superiority from that.

When people talk about privilege they mean to bring up the very obvious advantage straight white men have in most first world countries, ESPECIALLY if they're from well-off socioeconomic backgrounds. You cannot deny that a straight white man who grew up in the safety of the suburbs with a well-off and well-adjusted family has an advantage over an at-risk minority living on the skids, exposed to anything and everything from gang violence, abuse, drugs, etc. Kinda goes without saying but it's been proven that exposure to those kinds of things has a negative impact on a person's mental state.

IMO, fortunately, I think to an extent it's really more the socioeconomic background and having a decent upbringing than it is the race. But then, I've lived my entire life in San Francisco. We don't do bigotry here. Obviously some people manage to overcome the odds and make a decent living for themselves but most don't. That's the most worthwhile point anyone is making.

It seems to me you'd rather take the easy route and stay in your own world, refusing to make the effort to empathize or make a difference.
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Briks I didn't like the vid the chubby chick annoued me


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