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Janszoon 12-14-2010 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 969901)
so does anyone else use the term gigolo instead of man whore/slut? there's more potential for indirect ridicule.

I tend to think of gigolo as having a more specific meaning than simply a guy who sleeps around. It's a guy who is a kept man in exchange for money, gifts, lavish lifestyle, etc.

TheBig3 12-14-2010 07:45 AM

The Slut debate goes way back. I think Aristophenes wrote: σκύλες aren' τ **** αλλά σκαπάνες και τεχνάσματα.

The best translation I've seen was from Dr. Snoop when he notated: "bitches ain't **** but hoe's and tricks."

I think theres a large degree of merit in that because it expounds upon Aristotles earlier efforts of "bro's before hoes." What is does is give us the eternal "Why" to the aforementioned direction. But Sluts, it ought to be noted are not simply the female gender. And it would be foolish for us to believe so. I think its summed up smartest by Dr. Jay-Z's

"This is not a hoe in the sense of having a pussy, but a pussy having no god damned sense."

Word.

Guybrush 12-14-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 969972)
The Slut debate goes way back. I think Aristophenes wrote: σκύλες aren' τ **** αλλά σκαπάνες και τεχνάσματα.

The best translation I've seen was from Dr. Snoop when he notated: "bitches ain't **** but hoe's and tricks."

I think theres a large degree of merit in that because it expounds upon Aristotles earlier efforts of "bro's before hoes." What is does is give us the eternal "Why" to the aforementioned direction. But Sluts, it ought to be noted are not simply the female gender. And it would be foolish for us to believe so. I think its summed up smartest by Dr. Jay-Z's

"This is not a hoe in the sense of having a pussy, but a pussy having no god damned sense."

Word.

That was a brilliant post :p:

The pussy with no god damned sense touches on a point which has so far been largely overlooked in this thread, although I haven't scrutinized every post made so far.

Let's just say a slut is someone (male or female) who sleeps around a lot. There can be different reasons for sluttyness. Let's use a slutty girl as example. One reason she may be a slut is because she has control over her sex life and gets what she wants from it. She wants to sleep around and uses her confidence and other assets to get what she wants. The sluttyness is a result of her desires and the strengths that enables her to fulfill them. It's a good kind of sluttyness. However, a different reason could be that she subconciously behaves slutty to please others or is just really easy to persuade into sex, perhaps caused by poor self-esteem or related problems. The sluttyness could then be a result of the girl's weaknesses.

So, whether it's good or bad completely depends. ;)

mr dave 12-14-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 969955)
I tend to think of gigolo as having a more specific meaning than simply a guy who sleeps around. It's a guy who is a kept man in exchange for money, gifts, lavish lifestyle, etc.

and that's different than a slutty mistress how? ;)

it's like saying escorts aren't whores. last time i checked they were all ****ing for money... though at this point in the game it seems like it's also a viable above board way to get into showbiz so maybe it's not as clear of a comparison anymore.

Janszoon 12-15-2010 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave (Post 970196)
and that's different than a slutty mistress how? ;)

It isn't. But notice how you had to add "mistress" to make the words mean the same thing?

TheBig3 12-15-2010 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 969993)
That was a brilliant post :p:

Thank you, Tore. At least someone appreciates how long it takes to use babelfish for a nothing-post around here.

theraggedtiger 12-15-2010 07:45 AM

all the same.....male or female.

Not a bad thing though, so long as the person is up-front about it. It's the ones that pretend to be 'whiter than white' that annoy me.

I was a male slut back in my teens and 20's - and incredibly proud of the fact!


Of course, I am now a reformed man. (ahem)

Guybrush 12-15-2010 09:47 AM

How many people someone sleeps around with is not very important on whether or not I like someone, but I generally don't like people who try to manipulate others into bed by acting like someone they're not. The most awkward of the bunch that I know of so far are guys who have read books and articles about how to charm, manipulate or even hypnotize women to bed. To me, to try so hard just seems kinda .. loser-ish. :rolleyes:

TheBig3 12-15-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 970440)
How many people someone sleeps around with is not very important on whether or not I like someone, but I generally don't like people who try to manipulate others into bed by acting like someone they're not. The most awkward of the bunch that I know of so far are guys who have read books and articles about how to charm, manipulate or even hypnotize women to bed. To me, to try so hard just seems kinda .. loser-ish. :rolleyes:

I suppose this is more for the fetish thread, but I'll have you know there are those of us out there who engage in that activity willingly and are on both ends of said advances...Sir!

Scarlett O'Hara 12-16-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 970440)
How many people someone sleeps around with is not very important on whether or not I like someone, but I generally don't like people who try to manipulate others into bed by acting like someone they're not. The most awkward of the bunch that I know of so far are guys who have read books and articles about how to charm, manipulate or even hypnotize women to bed. To me, to try so hard just seems kinda .. loser-ish. :rolleyes:

Hypnotize?...now that is going a bit far!


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