jastrub

Hey! I was just wondering if there were any other people on this forum who subscribe to anti-authoritarian ethics and politics. Some [hopefully respectful] debate is always entertaining and enriching.

chiron

cartman?

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jastrub

No. This is actually supposed to be somewhat serious.

chiron

If it was serious then shouldn't you make a point before posing a question.

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cardboard adolescent

For me, any debate regarding anarchy or other political systems fundamentally involves a debate over human nature. The notion of self-government strikes me as rather empty, the basic question is always: how do we deal with antagonistic people? How do we define antagonistic? It seems to me that as soon as you answer those two questions a structure begins to emerge, and as soon as there is a structure there have to be those responsible for maintaining and enforcing that structure.

Paedantic Basterd

We'd all rape and kill one another, then die out. Anarchy is foolish.

Freebase Dali

So you're basically saying that humans have absolutely no sense of right and wrong as it pertains to their own morality, and simply don't rape and kill because there would be a legal consequence?

Paedantic Basterd

No, I'm pretty much saying that all of the *******s would destroy everyone else because they would have a world with no consequences.

Freebase Dali

I doubt it would be a world of no consequence. Assuming we all had the means to protect ourselves, the consequence of infringing on someone else's basic human rights would be more deadly and feared than any currently instituted legal policy. I think that instead of worrying about individual ass holes, the real concern should be of another large force of people rising to power with enough influence and support to enable them to call the shots without you being able to do anything about it at all.

I'm not saying the current system isn't a stable one... I'm just saying that if you think you're better off letting someone else dictate the terms of our own security, then you're going to accept whatever those terms may be or may become. I just think that's a dangerous road to be comfortable traveling on. Sadly, we can't really do much about it... and that's kinda the entire point.

Paedantic Basterd

I was just being a misanthrope before, but in all seriousness, I don't think that anarchy could be maintained amongst the human race, and the very need to maintain such a thing defeats the point in and of itself. Socially and mentally, we're incapable of living as simply as the animal kingdom does.