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DwnWthVwls 08-19-2018 09:20 AM

I don't post my videos as evidence for a scientific argument. I was just sharing an interesting video

Exo 08-19-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1988762)
Exo!

http://resources2.news.com.au/images...806-granny.jpg

Mindy 08-19-2018 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1988775)
I don't post my videos as evidence for a scientific argument. I was just sharing an interesting video

I cant be interested in the videos i share? https://boxden.com/smilies/JRAZtb1.png

who says im posting them for any certain reason too... booo. get off this thread lol

DwnWthVwls 08-19-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 1988785)
I cant be interested in the videos i share? https://boxden.com/smilies/JRAZtb1.png

who says im posting them for any certain reason too... booo. get off this thread lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Ztc...epG/source.gif

The Batlord 08-19-2018 10:54 AM

I loved this one-sided Mindfullness/DWV rivalry.

[MERIT] 08-19-2018 04:37 PM

Samoan health authorities have stopped all children's vaccinations after two one-year-olds died just minutes after receiving the MMR vaccine. The two nurses who administered them have been charged with manslaughter and conspiracy to defeat the course of justice.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12086295

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12103918

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-...ghter-in-samoa

Dude111 08-19-2018 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk
This is why I say just use force and vaccinate everyone

No amount reasoning works

But Hawk some of us do not want our immune systems compromised!!

I have an autoimmune disease I believe what brought on by vaccine use when I was younger..... (Before I realised how bad they are)

Frownland 08-20-2018 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 1988847)
Samoan health authorities have stopped all children's vaccinations after two one-year-olds died just minutes after receiving the MMR vaccine. The two nurses who administered them have been charged with manslaughter and conspiracy to defeat the course of justice.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12086295

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12103918

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/south-...ghter-in-samoa

Didn't look into those cases much but vaccines can definitely be mishandled and cause infection. I don't see government action as a point against vaccines though (if I did I wouldn't do drugs), give me scientific evidence. I'm just not that much of an authoritarian.

Backing out on my earlier promise btw. The memes you posted earlier on don't really have enough substance for me to pull apart. If you have some scientific articles I'll take a glance though.

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 1988862)
But Hawk some of us do not want our immune systems compromised!!

Then you should avoid eating, drinking, breathing, standing in the sunlight, smiling, or touching anything.

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I have an autoimmune disease I believe what brought on by vaccine use when I was younger..... (Before I realised how bad they are)
Not sure which disease you're referring to but it was likely already present. It's a shame that it wasn't caught beforehand for more appropriate measures to be taken.

Mindy 08-20-2018 05:29 PM


Zhanteimi 08-20-2018 05:50 PM

"Vaccines don't cause autism, except when they do."

Dude111 08-21-2018 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland
Not sure which disease you're referring to but it was likely already present. It's a shame that it wasn't caught beforehand for more appropriate measures to be taken.

Is Psysorsis (I think thats how its spelled)

Its just aweful Frown!!

OccultHawk 08-22-2018 04:38 AM

https://www.nowtolove.com.au/parenti...pe-death-50770

Measles tragedy: Mum's heartbreaking post goes viral
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For five years, little Laine suffered unimaginable pain as she lost the ability to see, speak and move.

OccultHawk 08-24-2018 04:32 AM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45294192

Russia trolls 'spreading vaccination misinformation' to create discord

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In the US, the number of children being exempted from immunisation for religious or philosophical reasons is also rising, research published in June found.
ffs no exemptions

OccultHawk 10-22-2018 04:03 AM

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So far this year, there have been 41,000 cases in Europe and 40 deaths, according to the World Health Organization. The European experience may offer a window on how quickly things can go awry when parents choose not to vaccinate their children, doctors caution.
NBC News

Do not ask. Do not threaten with prison. Just take these children by force, give them their vaccinations and then give them back. We cannot allow these diseases to comeback. Period.

DwnWthVwls 10-22-2018 02:27 PM

^Cases of what?

Frownland 10-22-2018 02:31 PM

Measles.

OccultHawk 10-22-2018 02:32 PM

My bad.

DwnWthVwls 10-22-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2007332)
Measles.

Thanks, havent been following it much lately.

OccultHawk 10-25-2018 01:24 PM

Global Dispatches is a good podcast

From the latest episode’s description:

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About twenty years ago, India accounted for over 60% of all polio cases worldwide -- in fact it was considered a "hyper" endemic country. Then, the Indian government teamed up with the United Nations and other partners, including through the Global Polio Eradication Initiative, to tackle polio head on.
India's vast population, its geographic diversity, and pockets of extreme poverty seriously complicated this effort. But the Indian government and its partners adapted, innovated and above all persisted until they could reach the very last child with the polio vaccine.
In 2014, India was officially declared polio-free. There has not been a single case of wild polio in India in over eight years. Today, only three countries remain polio endemic. And as of October, there were fewer than 20 wild polio cases worldwide in 2018.
The world is now tantalizingly close to the total global eradication of polio, and India's success in defeating polio within its borders is a big reason why total eradication is within reach

What a triumph

grindy 10-25-2018 01:26 PM

Makes you want to punch a bunch of anti-vaxxers.

Plankton 10-25-2018 01:28 PM

My Dad was a Polio survivor. Thank you, Science.

OccultHawk 10-25-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 2008553)
My Dad was a Polio survivor. Thank you, Science.

And his son got to grow up in a society that had eradicated polio. So thank you again to science.

Plankton 10-25-2018 01:41 PM

:beer:

[MERIT] 10-25-2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2008552)
Makes you want to punch a bunch of anti-vaxxers.

:wave:

Vaccine theory isn't inherently wrong, I just have a problem with the dangerous ingredients in most vaccines.

Frownland 10-25-2018 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2008564)
:wave:

Vaccine theory isn't inherently wrong, I just have a problem with the dangerous ingredients in most vaccines.

You should be worried about DANGEROUS life-threatening diseases that you've had the privilege of not seeing in your lifetime.

OccultHawk 10-25-2018 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2008567)
You should be worried about DANGEROUS life-threatening diseases that you've had the privilege of not seeing in your lifetime.

Church

FETCHER. 10-25-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2008567)
You should be worried about DANGEROUS life-threatening diseases that you've had the privilege of not seeing in your lifetime.

Yessss. I don’t know why people think autism is worse than being dead.

OccultHawk 10-25-2018 03:56 PM

There’s no causal relationship between any vaccines and autism.

[MERIT] 10-25-2018 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2008609)
There’s no causal relationship between any vaccines and autism.

This is blatantly and patently untrue. Not really in the mood to bring up proof that you could find yourself in about 2 seconds.

Frownland 10-25-2018 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2008613)
This is blatantly and patently untrue. Not really in the mood to bring up proof that you could find yourself in about 2 seconds.

So you're basing your stance off of 2 seconds of googling. Super science!

DwnWthVwls 10-25-2018 04:14 PM

I saw a YT video about how the medical trend is moving towards the best doctors are the ones who can google the best, not necessarily know the most. Whatchaknowboutdat?

The video was "real doctor watches medical tv shows"...

The Batlord 10-25-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT] (Post 2008613)
This is blatantly and patently untrue. Not really in the mood to bring up proof that you could find yourself in about 2 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2008617)
So you're basing your stance off of 2 seconds of googling. Super science!

Come on, you two. I've been waiting for a throwdown with sources between you two on vaccines for a while now.

[MERIT] 10-25-2018 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2008617)
So you're basing your stance off of 2 seconds of googling. Super science!

Not in the mood tonight. Try me.

30 Solid Scientific Studies That Proves Vaccines Cause Autism


Court Awards Family $1.5 MILLION+ For Daughter's Vaccine Injury

Tennessee Medical Office Stops Administering Vaccines Because They Cause Autism

The Vaccine-Autism Connection Explained

Thimerasol: CDC Releases Documents Showing They Knew Vaccine Preservative Causes Autism


Italian Courts Rule That Vaccines Cause Autism

But this post was a waste of time, because you're just going to $hit on the sources in attempt to cause strife and induce arguments.

[MERIT] 10-25-2018 04:29 PM

Why should I have to spoon feed you people? You're adults FFS.

DwnWthVwls 10-25-2018 04:32 PM

Its not spoon feeding as much as providing a foundation for your argument. Frown should also provide sources.

The Batlord 10-25-2018 04:34 PM

Bruh if your sources are conspiracy theory **** then of course they're going to get **** on. The only people who take that seriously are conspiracy nuts with logic problems.

[MERIT] 10-25-2018 04:34 PM

VIDEOS


Autism: Made In The U.S.A.


Vaxxed: From Cover-Up To Catastrophe

These are hosted on Archive.org, so I don't think I can embed them.

The Batlord 10-25-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2008650)
not trying to stir ****, but isn't vaccination by force contrary to the anarchist ethos OH

I guess OH would say, "**** it this is an exception. Pandemics shouldn't be a choice."

[MERIT] 10-25-2018 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy (Post 2008651)
Bruh if your sources are conspiracy theory **** then of course they're going to get **** on. The only people who take that seriously are conspiracy nuts with logic problems.

Just because it's a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it not true, bruh.

Ever think that maybe mainstream media refuses to post certain things because they have an agenda or are sponsored by drug compaines? No, of course you din't think that.

The Batlord 10-25-2018 04:39 PM

You ever think you never shook the crazy religious **** and just replaced it with crazy conspiracy ****?


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