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09-10-2010, 04:30 PM | #61 (permalink) | |
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09-10-2010, 04:39 PM | #62 (permalink) | |
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As I said before, my general rule would be "live and let live". I said in normal circumstances my attitude before bigots would be INDEFFERENCE, not a gratuitous provocation. I just ignore them. But, what happens when bigots' pretension is to breake that rule?. Then it changes everything. That's the heart of the matter. Islam doesn't tolerate the separation between religion and politics. It's not religion "like any other".
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09-10-2010, 04:56 PM | #63 (permalink) |
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09-10-2010, 05:03 PM | #64 (permalink) |
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I won't disagree with that, but more so now.
Burning a religious book in the middle ages wouldn't have got the same media attention as it does these days. Now it's literally only hours before you can wip up an international suicidal bombing campaign. |
09-10-2010, 09:21 PM | #65 (permalink) | |
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You have, a cat. As your avatar. And you post pictures of cats. Facepalming. In an attempt at humour. The statement above is one that you are not in a position to type.
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09-11-2010, 12:09 AM | #67 (permalink) | ||||
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I continue to side with Zaqarbal that freedom of speech allows the destruction of books. The right to protest through burning objects you own (even bras!) should continue to be protected, regardless who is offended. Kitten-man, you've got my vote!
Religious freedom means that people can follow their beliefs without preventing others from following their own (or lack thereof), as long as all actions are non-violent. Although many conservative Muslims apparently believe the Quran is the actual word of god, this does not mean that other people have to treat the Quran as if they were conservative Muslims. The same is true for any book about any belief system. Also, note that there are Muslims who support absolute freedom of speech/expression and encourage other Muslims not to react with violence to a Quran burning: Quote:
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The U.S. is at its strongest when it does not give in to pressure to violate freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Just like people should be able to build a Mosque near Ground Zero, people should be able to burn the Quran. I feel our country's ability to protect people so they can coexist peacefully while having and expressing very different beliefs is our greatest strength as a society. Quote:
But I am glad this minister has the right to express his views in a non-violent fashion that does not directly physically harm anyone. I'm glad the U.S. has not made offending people illegal...though if it did, I could have the law on my side in stopping all you animal eaters.
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09-11-2010, 02:43 AM | #68 (permalink) |
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My thought on the matter: who cares?
If the people are going to burn Qu'rans then they are going to burn them. If the Taliban were going to burn Bibles then they would burn them. Everyone should see the blatant stupidity in these actions. The real question: is this even really an issue? One that should be publicized nationally? The press should focus on important issues, not controversial attention-getters like "Qu'ran burning" and "Ground Zero Mosque." But why stop when they're so successful?
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09-11-2010, 02:49 AM | #69 (permalink) | |
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I'm not saying we should walk on eggshells out of fear of pissing Muslims off or anything... but seriously... if you know something is going to cause aggression and provoke violence, you stay the hell away. The stupidity is this guy using the first amendment as justification for making a stupid move. What that does is not only cause problems, but paves the way for more rules and laws to be put into place to limit your freedoms anyway... Use your rights in a way that doesn't screw it up for everyone else. |
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09-11-2010, 05:26 AM | #70 (permalink) | |
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