Depression and suicide

Xurtio · 02-24-2015, 08:01 PM

re: satanism - there's basically two kinds (and still more sects)

1) theistic (actually believe in satan and worship him - no idea of their thoughts on suicide)

2) LaVeyan Satanism - which is what Batlord is referring to; read up on their 9 Satanic Statements, their 11 Rules of Earth, and the 9 Sins to have a better understanding of them. To me, they've always seemed like the kind of people that would consider suicide as cowardly and weak.

LaVeyan Satanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

grtwhtgrvty · 02-24-2015, 08:04 PM

I like how you claimed I was making generalizations and assumptions and then you go off to insult the fact that I suffer from mental illness.. like.. you, a psychology major, someone who should be wanting to help people, is getting emotionally charged and insulting someone point blank for being mentally ill?

Ontop of that, you made a slew of generalizations and assumptions in your own right. Your hypocrisy confuses me.

Why is everyone being such a hypocrite. Like there is so much hypocrisy in that post, dude. It's literally in every sentence. You paint yourself a hypocrite in literally every single sentence of that post. And no psychology major worth their **** is going to insult someone for suffering from a mental illness completely out of their control, like wow.

I'll insult someone's ignorance, or poke at their intelligence, but I would never ever go after someone for being sick, especially a victim of abuse for suffering from illnesses as a cause of that abuse. That was really low.

A symptom is something that reflects the presence of a disease or sickness. That's why suicide is a symptom of mental illness.

And you know who told my cousin that information? One of his professors.

Xurtio · 02-24-2015, 08:06 PM

Don't play the victim card after being a ****... suck it up and try to get along with people or you're just going to get drowned in the downward spiral **** fight.

grtwhtgrvty · 02-24-2015, 08:08 PM

I'm not playing anything. I'm saying how I feel. That's where I specifically draw the line. I've been called an *******, a ***got, a twat, a ****, etc, but yeah, I draw the line at making fun of the fact that my mother brutally abused me my entire childhood. I don't even draw the line there. I'm not hurt by it. I'm pointing out that it's ****ed up for a Psych major to go there like that. What kind of psych major insults someone for being mentally ill? Why are you a psych major?

Xurtio · 02-24-2015, 08:09 PM

I don't think you're a perma-**** for what it's worth, not yet anyway.

Xurtio · 02-24-2015, 08:11 PM

There's two kinds of psych major: clinical and theoretical. Theoretical psych majors just want to know how the brain works, maybe they don't mind unethical experiments on subjects.

Only the clinical ones are "healers". And there's no requirement to have bedside manner outside of your job anyway (that's a general MD principle).

grtwhtgrvty · 02-24-2015, 08:12 PM

I know. This happens on every forum I've ever joined because I'm abrasive and unrelenting with my opinion, and there's obviously a clique and when I go after one person in the clique, everyone was else is bound to bandwagon and defend that person. It's just forum culture. Eventually people will learn to love me.

DwnWthVwls · 02-24-2015, 08:12 PM

I think everyone is just annoyed by the fact that you're claiming what you feel to be a fact even after being presented with countless pieces of objective information that prove otherwise.

This is not a debate of feelings. The claim you made is suicide is not a choice, but the facts say otherwise. Everyone has acknowledged that in some cases or even the majority it may not be a choice, but there is possibility for it to be one, and even if only 0.0000001% of the time it's a choice then your claim is wrong.

YorkeDaddy · 02-24-2015, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grtwhtgrvty

I like how you claimed I was making generalizations and assumptions and then you go off to insult the fact that I suffer from mental illness.. like.. you, a psychology major, someone who should be wanting to help people, is getting emotionally charged and insulting someone point blank for being mentally ill?

Ontop of that, you made a slew of generalizations and assumptions in your own right. Your hypocrisy confuses me.

Why is everyone being such a hypocrite. Like there is so much hypocrisy in that post, dude. It's literally in every sentence. You paint yourself a hypocrite in literally every single sentence of that post. And no psychology major worth their **** is going to insult someone for suffering from a mental illness completely out of their control, like wow.

I'll insult someone's ignorance, or poke at their intelligence, but I would never ever go after someone for being sick, especially a victim of abuse for suffering from illnesses as a cause of that abuse. That was really low.

A symptom is something that reflects the presence of a disease or sickness. That's why suicide is a symptom of mental illness.

And you know who told my cousin that information? One of his professors.

Does having a mental illness make it okay to be an insufferable asshole to several well-intentioned people all at once? Way to immediately use your (unconfirmed) problems as a shield the second someone calls you out for being a shithead.

You disgust me, and your problems don't change that. Someone can need help but not deserve it, and you certainly have done nothing to deserve my respect or compassion or anyone else's for that matter. If you want to play the victim card you should probably be a little more level-headed in the discussions before you start playing that card. Maybe then I could summon a shred of sympathy for you.

I'm a Psych major that wants to help people that are actually good people that recognize they have a problem and are seeking out help for that problem. I have no desire to help douchebags that try to insult the intelligence (which is HILARIOUSLY ironic considering the genetics that factor into it) of people that I have a ton of respect for and that I know for a fact are extremely intelligent like Frownland for example. You could only hope to be remotely as interesting as he is. But alas, you're just a generic internet cunt who thinks he can be a jerk and then bring up his "problems" and then suddenly everything you said should be forgiven.

grtwhtgrvty · 02-24-2015, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I think everyone is just annoyed by the fact that you're claiming what you feel to be a fact even after being presented with countless pieces of objective information that prove otherwise.

This is not a debate of feelings. The claim you made is suicide is not a choice, but the facts say otherwise. Everyone has acknowledged that in some cases or even the majority it may not be a choice but there is possibility for it to be one, and even if 0.0000001% of the time it's a choice then your claim is wrong.

What facts though. Like I saw the satanist thing. It wasn't even true.

The seppuku thing was irrelevant in contemporary society.

Where are these mysterious facts? like I'm confused. I feel like I've addressed everything that's been said to me except the things that other people answer for me.

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02-24-2015, 08:01 PM	#761 (permalink)
Xurtio Brain Licker Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,083	re: satanism - there's basically two kinds (and still more sects) 1) theistic (actually believe in satan and worship him - no idea of their thoughts on suicide) 2) LaVeyan Satanism - which is what Batlord is referring to; read up on their 9 Satanic Statements, their 11 Rules of Earth, and the 9 Sins to have a better understanding of them. To me, they've always seemed like the kind of people that would consider suicide as cowardly and weak. LaVeyan Satanism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉

02-24-2015, 08:06 PM	#763 (permalink)
Xurtio Brain Licker Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,083	Don't play the victim card after being a **... suck it up and try to get along with people or you're just going to get drowned in the downward spiral ** fight. __________________ H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉

02-24-2015, 08:09 PM	#765 (permalink)
Xurtio Brain Licker Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,083	I don't think you're a perma-**** for what it's worth, not yet anyway. __________________ H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉

02-24-2015, 08:11 PM	#766 (permalink)
Xurtio Brain Licker Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 1,083	There's two kinds of psych major: clinical and theoretical. Theoretical psych majors just want to know how the brain works, maybe they don't mind unethical experiments on subjects. Only the clinical ones are "healers". And there's no requirement to have bedside manner outside of your job anyway (that's a general MD principle). __________________ H̓̇̅̉yͤ͏mͬ͂ͧn͑̽̽̌ͪ̑͐͟o̴͊̈́͑̇m͛͌̓ͦ̑aͫ̽ͤ̇n̅̎͐̒ͫ͐c̆ͯͫ̋ ̔̃́eͯ͒rͬͬ̄҉

02-24-2015, 08:04 PM	#762 (permalink)
grtwhtgrvty jiojoijoi Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 398	I like how you claimed I was making generalizations and assumptions and then you go off to insult the fact that I suffer from mental illness.. like.. you, a psychology major, someone who should be wanting to help people, is getting emotionally charged and insulting someone point blank for being mentally ill? Ontop of that, you made a slew of generalizations and assumptions in your own right. Your hypocrisy confuses me. Why is everyone being such a hypocrite. Like there is so much hypocrisy in that post, dude. It's literally in every sentence. You paint yourself a hypocrite in literally every single sentence of that post. And no psychology major worth their **** is going to insult someone for suffering from a mental illness completely out of their control, like wow. I'll insult someone's ignorance, or poke at their intelligence, but I would never ever go after someone for being sick, especially a victim of abuse for suffering from illnesses as a cause of that abuse. That was really low. A symptom is something that reflects the presence of a disease or sickness. That's why suicide is a symptom of mental illness. And you know who told my cousin that information? One of his professors.

02-24-2015, 08:08 PM	#764 (permalink)
grtwhtgrvty jiojoijoi Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 398	I'm not playing anything. I'm saying how I feel. That's where I specifically draw the line. I've been called an *****, a got, a twat, a *, etc, but yeah, I draw the line at making fun of the fact that my mother brutally abused me my entire childhood. I don't even draw the line there. I'm not hurt by it. I'm pointing out that it's **ed up for a Psych major to go there like that. What kind of psych major insults someone for being mentally ill? Why are you a psych major?

02-24-2015, 08:12 PM	#767 (permalink)
grtwhtgrvty jiojoijoi Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 398	I know. This happens on every forum I've ever joined because I'm abrasive and unrelenting with my opinion, and there's obviously a clique and when I go after one person in the clique, everyone was else is bound to bandwagon and defend that person. It's just forum culture. Eventually people will learn to love me.