JustJunMC

The act of suicide is incredibly stupid and it definitely takes balls to off yourself. Generally it is from mental issues or depression brought from a traumatic experience or experiences. For example, there have been bullied kids and there life is hell because they just get beat up everyday. There are tales I have read in the middle east of girls being raped and tortured and the girl is blamed for it happening to them. There are many more issues but those type of incidents cause trauma and lead to mental issues that make them feel death is freedom to them.

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Sansa Stark

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Depression is not caused by "traumatic experiences"

JustJunMC

I disagree

if you go through a traumatic experience it can cause depression

I gave examples in my previous post of what could cause depression

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Forward To Death

If you commit suicide, it can mean anything from wanting to get back at someone passive-aggressively, or even something as simple as being high/drunk. It doesn't necessarily mean you're mentally ill either. Saying you have to be mentally ill to kill yourself intentionally seems kind of ignorant to me.

Mental illness makes you irrational, but life can really suck. I can see how someone might kill themselves because they simply don't feel like living for X amount of years. Does that make them mentally ill because they don't have much going for them? Suicide only makes sense to the person who's dead.

JustJunMC

I dont know about being high and drunk and offing yourself LOL

I have been high and drunk and I believe I have never offed myself LOL

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jackhammer

Self preservation is so ingrained into our DNA so to go against that suggests a huge problem.

To be a callous **** and comment on this I would say that 90% of suicide attempts are cries for help and ultimately selfish (as well as being unsuccessful).

Unless it is the most disturbing life one person has been through, suicide is a cowards way out and even then someone, somewhere is out there to reach out a hand.

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Rjinn

Mental illness doesn't have to be permanent, it has to do with stress (or a brain that doesn't work how it should.) Suicide = Stress > Coping mechanisms.

I've never heard of a scenario where someone has killed themselves over being bored. Unless it's obviously some depressive state.

I can understand terminal illness but again, that's stress. I absolutely don't think it's mentally healthy to use suicide as a solution to solve your problems or instead of trying to find something going on for you in life. Neither is getting back at someone. That's either troubles with lack of motivation or social emotional stress.

If it is found out you're going to commit suicide you'll be admitted to an institution straight away no question.

Threatening suicide can be a call for attention, and also manipulative in cases. Committing suicide in cowardice is unreasonably twisted if fears are there to ensure your survival. No matter how complicated or delusional fear can be.

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Sansa Stark

No, it can't. It can only trigger a pre-existing condition, not actually cause it.

JustJunMC

It can be both

a traumatic experience can cause depression and a feel for the need of suicide

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Rjinn

In terms of reactive depression experiences do cause it, but that's temporary and not a clinical disorder. Also just a normal reaction. Any chronic illness is caused by genetics, is biological or other illnesses. For example pot doesn't cause psychosis, it only triggers it as an onset. Psychosis is a pre-existing condition same as depression, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia.

I'm sure if you are talking about PTSD but that's also just another trigger for depression.

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