Depression and suicide

GeddyBass2112 · 01-09-2011, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

Did you any of those times seriously consider how you would hurt the people close to you had any of your attempts succeeded?

Only briefly at best. TBH part of the problem for me was that my family aren't and (at the time) weren't aware of my depression, my problems at the time and the few times it ever came up in discussion, my family members simply told me to 'stop being stupid'.

In short, I believed (and to some extent still believe) that my family didn't care. I know that sounds terrible but I seriously think that if I mentioned anything to them about my depression/anxiety, they wouldn't and don't care. I haven't even told them 'properly' that I'm suffering from depression, or that I'm currently undergoing counselling.

s_k · 01-09-2011, 08:52 PM

Well I suppose there's more people around you than just your family?

Eitherway, the way Geddy describes it. This is the way I think suicide works for most people.
Even if there's a way out, they're not going to see it at that point, as obvious as it may be.
And for that reason only I think suicide can never be selfish. You would do different if you knew how to.

Merkaba · 01-10-2011, 03:05 AM

As far as depression goes, I reckon joining social clubs is a primo way to deal with a lot of things. I realise it's hard to "just do it" when your in a low, convincing yourself that something is constructive can be the hard bit. But just a chance to meet people doing the same thing you might enjoy (tabletennis, scrabble, dancing, basketball) giving you that fresh spin on things is primo.

If nothing else it's a chance for other people in your community to identify with you.

Bloozcrooz · 01-10-2011, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GeddyBass2112

Only briefly at best. TBH part of the problem for me was that my family aren't and (at the time) weren't aware of my depression, my problems at the time and the few times it ever came up in discussion, my family members simply told me to 'stop being stupid'.

In short, I believed (and to some extent still believe) that my family didn't care. I know that sounds terrible but I seriously think that if I mentioned anything to them about my depression/anxiety, they wouldn't and don't care. I haven't even told them 'properly' that I'm suffering from depression, or that I'm currently undergoing counselling.

Trust me if you had succeeded in your attempts. It would effect someone who loves you. Im sure your loved. Whether you realize it or not. I hope you get better, and recognize their are other solutions my friend.

Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra · 01-10-2011, 07:26 PM

I only tried suicide. (Well... no ****, of course I only 'tried')

Through a large ingestion of poison. Strangely enough, it wasn't out of depression at all. It was more a megalomaniac feeling of being able to just die, and not give a ****. Also, strangely enough, it came after I actually got my **** sorted, and everything seemed to be working out ok, almost as if it was the reason for doing it in the first place.

Arrived at the hospital, learned I didn't really ingest enough to do anything, and ended up with thousands of dollars of bills, and part of this really tacky kindergarten-escue support group thing. Apart from a couple of the people I met briefly through the support group thing, was a waste of time, and felt like more of a reason for these really flawed, frankly phony, scam government organizations(at least the ones I was dealing with) to charge me, and then reduce the price at the cost of other branches of the government.

Tried seriously only a few times after that. Not once out of depression. Always out of rage, and the feeling of gaining control in my rather dull life. Never anything serious. Think I busted up some blood vessels in my neck once trying to strangle myself with a belt. Nothing like slit wrists, or anything.

Apart from the poison one, I'm not even sure whether or not they were really suicide attempts, or just ways to exhaust my inner frustrations in lack of direction in life. Haven't tried in awhile, and don't feel compelled to. Maybe because I finally feel in control, and with direction. Don't know...

Interesting times, though.

s_k · 01-10-2011, 07:32 PM

How come so many people on this forum are sow ****ed up?
And yes that's a very serious question.
I really wonder.

Bloozcrooz · 01-10-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by s_k

How come so many people on this forum are sow ****ed up?
And yes that's a very serious question.
I really wonder.

I think its more just being confused. Everyone has issues to an extent. The ability to adapt to changes in life or initiate needed structual changes. Varies from person to person. Touchy subject for a lot of people im sure.

s_k · 01-10-2011, 07:57 PM

I don't know, I've never seen so many people with so much serious problems together on one forum. I don't say it's a bad thing, I just wonder

Paedantic Basterd · 01-10-2011, 08:11 PM

He does have a bit of a point. I haven't personally seen such a conglomeration of people with challenges in their lives or reckless behaviour.

Not an insult, merely an observation.

**Janszoon** · 01-10-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

He does have a bit of a point. I haven't personally seen such a conglomeration of people with challenges in their lives or reckless behaviour.

Not an insult, merely an observation.

I think most forums are like that and I think there are a couple different factors that contribute to it. The biggest one is that people are just more likely to overshare on an anonymous forum than they would in the real world. Another factor is that I think forums tend to attract people who feel lonely or isolated.

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01-09-2011, 08:52 PM	#212 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	Well I suppose there's more people around you than just your family? Eitherway, the way Geddy describes it. This is the way I think suicide works for most people. Even if there's a way out, they're not going to see it at that point, as obvious as it may be. And for that reason only I think suicide can never be selfish. You would do different if you knew how to. __________________ Click here to see my collection

01-10-2011, 03:05 AM	#213 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	As far as depression goes, I reckon joining social clubs is a primo way to deal with a lot of things. I realise it's hard to "just do it" when your in a low, convincing yourself that something is constructive can be the hard bit. But just a chance to meet people doing the same thing you might enjoy (tabletennis, scrabble, dancing, basketball) giving you that fresh spin on things is primo. If nothing else it's a chance for other people in your community to identify with you. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

01-10-2011, 07:32 PM	#216 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	How come so many people on this forum are sow ****ed up? And yes that's a very serious question. I really wonder. __________________ Click here to see my collection

01-10-2011, 07:57 PM	#218 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	I don't know, I've never seen so many people with so much serious problems together on one forum. I don't say it's a bad thing, I just wonder __________________ Click here to see my collection

01-10-2011, 07:26 PM	#215 (permalink)
Ska Lagos Jew Sun Ra \/ GOD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nowhere... Posts: 2,179	I only tried suicide. (Well... no **, of course I only 'tried') Through a large ingestion of poison. Strangely enough, it wasn't out of depression at all. It was more a megalomaniac feeling of being able to just die, and not give a . Also, strangely enough, it came after I actually got my ** sorted, and everything seemed to be working out ok, almost as if it was the reason for doing it in the first place. Arrived at the hospital, learned I didn't really ingest enough to do anything, and ended up with thousands of dollars of bills, and part of this really tacky kindergarten-escue support group thing. Apart from a couple of the people I met briefly through the support group thing, was a waste of time, and felt like more of a reason for these really flawed, frankly phony, scam government organizations(at least the ones I was dealing with) to charge me, and then reduce the price at the cost of other branches of the government. Tried seriously only a few times after that. Not once out of depression. Always out of rage, and the feeling of gaining control in my rather dull life. Never anything serious. Think I busted up some blood vessels in my neck once trying to strangle myself with a belt. Nothing like slit wrists, or anything. Apart from the poison one, I'm not even sure whether or not they were really suicide attempts, or just ways to exhaust my inner frustrations in lack of direction in life. Haven't tried in awhile, and don't feel compelled to. Maybe because I finally feel in control, and with direction. Don't know... Interesting times, though.

01-10-2011, 08:11 PM	#219 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	He does have a bit of a point. I haven't personally seen such a conglomeration of people with challenges in their lives or reckless behaviour. Not an insult, merely an observation.