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View Poll Results: Is suicide cowardly?
Yes 39 20.74%
No 79 42.02%
Sometimes, depends on the circumstances (kids etc.) 70 37.23%
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Old 10-18-2010, 11:14 PM   #141 (permalink)
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blegh..ive been there before.. I lost my best friend last week so im at that point again..
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:12 PM   #142 (permalink)
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blegh..ive been there before.. I lost my best friend last week so im at that point again..
oh man, im so sorry about your friend! hope you find a little happiness soon, PM me if you need someone to talk to.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:54 AM   #143 (permalink)
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Yes, suicide is cowardly. Life is a bitch and then you die. DEAL.

Taking your own life is a waste of a perfectly capable human being, whom despite their faults, only allows themselves to be stopped by mental blocks and the like. Yes we can all chase our dreams, and no we wont all catch the. In fact we wont always have a perfect girlfriend, or any girlfriend at all... (or boyfriend if that's your preference) We might not get the job we want, or the grade we wanted on a test, and we might be bullied or feel like we don't fit it.

The fact of the matter is, our weak points, our faults, life's challenges, our personal struggles, all of it - all of it makes up who we are.

How we face our demons and overcome life's troubles not only will define us in our future but it will also give us a sense of accomplishment, relief, success. If anyone who eventually became famous had taken their life in their darkest hour the world would be a depressing and boring place.

Yes mental illness exists and it can be damn hard to overcome but while the mind is a powerful tool capable of making us submit it is also a strong force in the opposite direction, which when used in the right way, is an even more extraordinary force. "Never give up! Trust your insticts!" - Peppy Hare
I couldn't disagree more. Quoting a 1990s video game doesn't help your case. So you should Do a Barrell Roll.
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Old 11-11-2010, 07:27 AM   #144 (permalink)
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Yes, suicide is cowardly. Life is a bitch and then you die. DEAL.

Taking your own life is a waste of a perfectly capable human being, whom despite their faults, only allows themselves to be stopped by mental blocks and the like. Yes we can all chase our dreams, and no we wont all catch the. In fact we wont always have a perfect girlfriend, or any girlfriend at all... (or boyfriend if that's your preference) We might not get the job we want, or the grade we wanted on a test, and we might be bullied or feel like we don't fit it.

The fact of the matter is, our weak points, our faults, life's challenges, our personal struggles, all of it - all of it makes up who we are.

How we face our demons and overcome life's troubles not only will define us in our future but it will also give us a sense of accomplishment, relief, success. If anyone who eventually became famous had taken their life in their darkest hour the world would be a depressing and boring place.

Yes mental illness exists and it can be damn hard to overcome but while the mind is a powerful tool capable of making us submit it is also a strong force in the opposite direction, which when used in the right way, is an even more extraordinary force. "Never give up! Trust your insticts!" - Peppy Hare
Could you be anymore ignorant?

Seriously, like someone telling me to trust my instincts would only make me want to slit my throat more than I did before. do you think those with depression are really in the right state of mind? Do you think that half the people you know haven't wanted to top themselves once or twice. If we are so rational, why would we think like that. I can damn well see why people might do it, especially influenced by drugs and alcohol. Yes it is an easy way out but damn it would be relieving. You don't even know what some people have to put up with, and in some respects I feel like I'm pathetic for having depression in the past when there is nothing wrong with my life. But nothing really does explain why you feel the way you do. Maybe being physically assaulted helped encourage my bad state of mind but in the end it did take a lot of support from others to get me through. I personally couldn't of mustered the strength alone. I am woman.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:27 AM   #145 (permalink)
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Yes, suicide is cowardly. Life is a bitch and then you die. DEAL.

Taking your own life is a waste of a perfectly capable human being, whom despite their faults, only allows themselves to be stopped by mental blocks and the like. Yes we can all chase our dreams, and no we wont all catch the. In fact we wont always have a perfect girlfriend, or any girlfriend at all... (or boyfriend if that's your preference) We might not get the job we want, or the grade we wanted on a test, and we might be bullied or feel like we don't fit it.

The fact of the matter is, our weak points, our faults, life's challenges, our personal struggles, all of it - all of it makes up who we are.

How we face our demons and overcome life's troubles not only will define us in our future but it will also give us a sense of accomplishment, relief, success. If anyone who eventually became famous had taken their life in their darkest hour the world would be a depressing and boring place.

Yes mental illness exists and it can be damn hard to overcome but while the mind is a powerful tool capable of making us submit it is also a strong force in the opposite direction, which when used in the right way, is an even more extraordinary force. "Never give up! Trust your insticts!" - Peppy Hare
I see your point, but i can't help but think that you don't have a mental illness. To me it totally depends on the situation. I think your look on it is not considering other people feelings.
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Yes, suicide is cowardly. Life is a bitch and then you die. DEAL.

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I think it's obvious that you've never been there, and are speaking on a topic you know absolutely nothing about, to be honest.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:15 PM   #147 (permalink)
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I think it's obvious that you've never been there, and are speaking on a topic you know absolutely nothing about, to be honest.
That's clear. It's easy to take the moral high ground on a situation you've never delt with before.
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:25 PM   #148 (permalink)
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I dont think there is a moral high or low ground. Each persons life is in his own hands. Everyone has there troubles, some more than others. At the end of the day you must realize things could be much worse, so go be around people you love and do something that you enjoy so that tomorrow you may start again.

Ultimately its your decision what to do with your life. End it if you must but as many people can vouch with me on this. if theres is even one thing left in this world you want to do, see, or accomplish then perhaps you should wait. You have nothing to lose right?

ps: I typically dont post about serious topics here but this one is important. The chances of major depression returning after having it once goes way up. And after that goes up astronomically. Case in point, if you have had real depression before chances say most likely it will return one if not many more times. I say this not to scare someone but to say learn everything you can from the trouble in your life. Without low points and trouble the ability to enjoy the good things does not evolve. For a person stuck in a dark hole for months, having a walk in the park on a nice sunny day can make them feel wonderful. Simple things, one step at a time.
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:15 AM   #149 (permalink)
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I dont think there is a moral high or low ground. Each persons life is in his own hands. Everyone has there troubles, some more than others. At the end of the day you must realize things could be much worse, so go be around people you love and do something that you enjoy so that tomorrow you may start again.

Ultimately its your decision what to do with your life. End it if you must but as many people can vouch with me on this. if theres is even one thing left in this world you want to do, see, or accomplish then perhaps you should wait. You have nothing to lose right?

ps: I typically dont post about serious topics here but this one is important. The chances of major depression returning after having it once goes way up. And after that goes up astronomically. Case in point, if you have had real depression before chances say most likely it will return one if not many more times. I say this not to scare someone but to say learn everything you can from the trouble in your life. Without low points and trouble the ability to enjoy the good things does not evolve. For a person stuck in a dark hole for months, having a walk in the park on a nice sunny day can make them feel wonderful. Simple things, one step at a time.
Unfortunately, there are mental disorders which don't really allow for rationalization to take away the desire to kill oneself. Particularly when delusions and depression are present simultaneously.
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Old 11-26-2010, 03:41 AM   #150 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, there are mental disorders which don't really allow for rationalization to take away the desire to kill oneself. Particularly when delusions and depression are present simultaneously.
Indeed, but i am speaking soley to people without a disorder, as I have no experience with them.
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