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Howard the Duck 12-24-2011 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1136507)
Transphobia is a very real, institutionalized issue. Most people don't even know the meaning of the word transgender, so when they see me turn up to an interview, they'll just assume that I'm one of those people who get off on dressing up as a woman or some other misconception. It's one of the worst minorities to be a part of. Not trying for sympathy or "My life is harder than yours" here, just a fact.

discrimination here is worse

Muslims are prohibited from transgendering and are usually victimised by the police here

Above 12-24-2011 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1136512)
discrimination here is worse

Muslims are prohibited from transgendering and are usually victimised by the police here

I bet.

I take it your country is very religious as a whole, yes?

Salami 12-24-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1136511)
Yeah, but until I fully transition, it's gonna be fairly obvious. I'm young, though, so hormones will make a huge difference with me.

Perhaps making the transition earlier on in life helps a bit, because since you will still be growing, your body will help you along a bit.

Still a really horrible thing for employers to discriminate just because you've made a certain decision about your body.

Howard the Duck 12-24-2011 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1136515)
I bet.

I take it your country is very religious as a whole, yes?

it's supposed to be Secular, but in reality, it's pretty Islamicised

Above 12-24-2011 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1136517)
it's supposed to be Secular, but in reality, it's pretty Islamicised

Maybe if HHBH lived there, then he can say he feels persecuted :laughing:

Howard the Duck 12-24-2011 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1136520)
Maybe if HHBH lived there, then he can say he feels persecuted :laughing:

it depends, really

we're still pretty much Neo-colonialist, so Caucasians are, more often than not, worshipped

unless he's a hardline fundie Christian

Above 12-24-2011 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce (Post 1136521)
unless he's a hardline fundie Christian

Yup!

Salami 12-24-2011 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Above (Post 1136522)
Yup!

Have you seen the guy's lastFM?

newbsdid911

And if he's supposed to be a Christian, he's not being very tolerant or serving the Lord here. Would Jesus insult people like he does?

hip hop bunny hop 12-25-2011 12:24 AM

Um, I'm an atheist and a traditionalist. In the political context of the USA, I'd be regarded as a paleoconservative. Hence why, in my signature, I link to my thread about early extreme metal, the american conservative, and my last.fm.

Anyways, others hit on the theme I was hammering on, even if they don't agree with it; mandating hiring/firing practices is a violation of property rights. It's cool if you disagree with me on this subject, but I'm not going to debate it if your arguments are just ad hominems.

Finally, if you want to say something to me you feel you can't say here or elsewhere on the site, feel free to just PM it to me. :)

RVCA 12-25-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop (Post 1136917)

Anyways, others hit on the theme I was hammering on, even if they don't agree with it; mandating hiring/firing practices is a violation of property rights.

Telling an employer they "have to hire transgender people" or "they cannot fire transgender people" would violate their property rights, sure. But I don't think that's what we're talking about in the past couple pages. If employers deny employment to individuals, either partially because of, or entirely because of, their gender status, these employers are practicing a form of discrimination that absolutely should not be tolerated.

So it's not that we're saying "you cannot fire transgender people" or "you have to hire transgender people", we're saying "you cannot fire people just because they are transgender" and "you cannot deny employment to people just because they are transgender". There is a difference.


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