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Old 09-22-2011, 05:01 PM   #861 (permalink)
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You obviously haven't met enough of them. I had a friend that couldn't dress to save his life and he was gay. I swear it looked like his closet raped him every morning when he left his house. I had to teach him how to dress.
Must be a Cali thing dawg.
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:04 PM   #862 (permalink)
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Must be a Cali thing dawg.
I guess my awkward point that I was making is that, some know how to dress well while others don't just like heterosexuals.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:44 PM   #863 (permalink)
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So . . . have we established any problems with homosexuality? (aside from some people's intolerance of it)
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:44 PM   #864 (permalink)
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If someone likes being tied up. Its a fetish. They enjoy it and see it as a boon.

They are likely going to take offense if you liken it to pedophilia. No certitudes, just politics. Take it from a guy who works CS, people go bat**** over the most ridiculous stuff.
I think "fetish" is a really broad umbrella that can encompass everything from leather and balloons to snuff film and corpses, and I think any reasonable person would admit that every community (in this case, fetishists) has some bad eggs. Of course, the key words are "reasonable person", so you might be right.
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Old 09-22-2011, 06:59 PM   #865 (permalink)
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I think "fetish" is a really broad umbrella that can encompass everything from leather and balloons to snuff film and corpses, and I think any reasonable person would admit that every community (in this case, fetishists) has some bad eggs. Of course, the key words are "reasonable person", so you might be right.
I am fairly certain Necrophilia is a mental illness.

It is classified as a paraphilia by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association. It is listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

Homosexuality was the top of the classification list (Code 302.0) until the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973. Other organizations followed suit, including the American Psychological Association in 1975, and the National Association of Social Workers. Martin Kafka writes, "Sexual disorders once considered paraphilias (e.g.,homosexuality) are now regarded as variants of normal sexuality."
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:16 PM   #866 (permalink)
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Anyways, why not debate semantics? It's not like you've responded or commented much on the more serious arguments in my posts, for example on morality or the fact that any large and healthy population of humans will have a gay minority.
Largely because I don't think its apt to label denying homosexuals the right to marry one another discrimination. I'm not saying they can't get married because their gay, but because two gays can't fulfill the functions of marriage. Further, since I'm not advocate anything similar to what, say, Anita Bryant advocated (LINK), it's a bit of a stretch to call me a homophobe. I think homosexuality is gross, sure, but I have never advocated criminalizing it.

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Old 09-22-2011, 08:27 PM   #867 (permalink)
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Is it ok to 'have these thoughts' and not act on them, that may be debated in a moral stance.

Anything other than 'possibly' entertaining these thoughts I personally would deem of psychological detriment, immoral, and perhaps illegal.
Hell to the no. There should be no encouragement of those thoughts as having SEXUAL feelings towards children is not normal and should be eliminated. Easier said than done, but I am fully against letting pedophiles be.
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It's not a "phenomenon". Children have gender roles inflicted on them, otherwise they just explore what looks fun. It's what children do until someone tells them it's wrong. And just because you played with dolls when you were a child (if you're a man), doesn't mean you're going to be gay, at all. I was very tomboyish when I was young, yet I'm a heterosexual, so where are you getting this bull**** from? Either way, gender doesn't have much to do with sexual orientation at all.
I was the major Tomboy as a child, I played sports with all males, I hated girly clothes and wore boy clothes, I hung only around boys. My toys were cars, trucks and telescopes etc. Dad would take me to footy and I'd ride on his bike. Now I'm the complete opposite, my favourite colour is pink and I'm incredibly girly and feminine. I think it is personally more inflicted by the parents but studies obviously say different. Still it would interesting to know how those studies managed to take society out of the picture as I believe society is a huge influence on human behaviour.
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Hell to the no. There should be no encouragement of those thoughts as having SEXUAL feelings towards children is not normal and should be eliminated. Easier said than done, but I am fully against letting pedophiles be.
I would agree, but is there an age barrier . . . when IS it 'normal' to have those thoughts?
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I would agree, but is there an age barrier . . . when IS it 'normal' to have those thoughts?
I'm not sure what you mean?
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