The problems with homosexuality

Mykonos · 09-22-2011, 11:13 AM

Well, basically what DJ said. If you're a paedophile then people should try and help you with it. If you haven't abused a child and have no intention of it (which includes child porn) then you shouldn't be thrown on a register and treated as a social pariah because of having some unlucky sexual preferences.

skaltezon · 09-22-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skaltezon

. . . people should be able to express whatever sexual preference they like without being seriously hassled about it, as long as they aren't paedophiles.

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Originally Posted by Mykonos

Actually, in my opinion paedophiles should be allowed to have the right to be paedophiles. The difference comes to whether they're sexually attracted to children to the point of criminally assaulting them or not.

I intended 'paedophile' to mean someone who sexually assaults a child,
but it's a totally unnecessary reference. Just ignore that whole sentence.

Mykonos · 09-22-2011, 12:19 PM

Okay. I get and agree with that completely. Although I'd say any kind of rapist shouldn't really have the right to practice it.

hip hop bunny hop · 09-22-2011, 12:45 PM

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Clearly you can't read properly because if you could, you would see I don't claim to know how you feel about anything. It says "if you".

Right, it says, "if you".... and to answer your question
"if you are diabetic, you shouldn't eat too much sugar", would you accuse me of calling you a diabetic?

No.

But:

"if you are diabetic( HHB f.ex), you shouldn't eat too much sugar", would you accuse me of calling you a diabetic?

Then, yes, because I'm taking "f.ex" to mean, "for example". Understand?

Anyways, we're debating semantics. As long as you recognize that's not my position, that's fine.

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Well, basically what DJ said. If you're a paedophile then people should try and help you with it. If you haven't abused a child and have no intention of it (which includes child porn) then you shouldn't be thrown on a register and treated as a social pariah because of having some unlucky sexual preferences.

Nonsense, there is no "bad luck" in becoming a paedophile. It's not as though there's a paedophile gene; these are individuals who are the embodiment of dangerous mental illness. Paedophiles are a blight on a society, and anyone diagnosed as a paedophile should spend their life in a mental institution for the good of society. Anyone who acts on their paedophilia should be executed.

Mykonos · 09-22-2011, 01:05 PM

Who's to say there isn't some genetics involved in it? Many people with off-kilter sexualities reckon it's a combination of the environment and their genetic makeup. And even then, is it really their fault for having a messed-up life that produces odd preferences?

SIRIUSB · 09-22-2011, 01:14 PM

If homosexuality is not a 'choice' then is it genetic?
Is pedophilia a choice or is it genetic?
Are they both psychological, or neither?

Mykonos · 09-22-2011, 01:17 PM

I don't believe for a second that homosexuality is a choice. With the amount of discrimination and disadvantages of it if you're actually hetero, why would anyone choose to go against their impulses for it?

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 09-22-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRIUSB

If homosexuality is not a 'choice' then is it genetic?
Is pedophilia a choice or is it genetic?
Are they both psychological, or neither?

Paedophilia is a mental illness. Homosexuality is not.

Thom Yorke · 09-22-2011, 01:58 PM

I wouldn't define it as a mental illness. You could almost call it a fetish. There are certain things that turn people on that they can't control and that's one of them. There are very few things that I think that people should not be allowed to practice, and paedophilia obviously falls into that category.

Thom Yorke · 09-22-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mykonos

I don't believe for a second that homosexuality is a choice. With the amount of discrimination and disadvantages of it if you're actually hetero, why would anyone choose to go against their impulses for it?

I don't believe it's a choice either, but I think it's possible certain things in early childhood could trigger something. Society certainly contributes to forming many common characteristics based around sexuality like it does with gender, but as for the physical attraction itself, I doubt it.

09-22-2011, 11:13 AM	#821 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	Well, basically what DJ said. If you're a paedophile then people should try and help you with it. If you haven't abused a child and have no intention of it (which includes child porn) then you shouldn't be thrown on a register and treated as a social pariah because of having some unlucky sexual preferences. __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

09-22-2011, 12:19 PM	#823 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	Okay. I get and agree with that completely. Although I'd say any kind of rapist shouldn't really have the right to practice it. __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

09-22-2011, 01:05 PM	#825 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	Who's to say there isn't some genetics involved in it? Many people with off-kilter sexualities reckon it's a combination of the environment and their genetic makeup. And even then, is it really their fault for having a messed-up life that produces odd preferences? __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

09-22-2011, 01:17 PM	#827 (permalink)
Mykonos AWhatup Ganache? Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 381	I don't believe for a second that homosexuality is a choice. With the amount of discrimination and disadvantages of it if you're actually hetero, why would anyone choose to go against their impulses for it? __________________ 'Not that Becktionary, the Rhyming Becktionary!'- Bender Bending Rodriguez

09-22-2011, 01:14 PM	#826 (permalink)
SIRIUSB Luciferian Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 278	If homosexuality is not a 'choice' then is it genetic? Is pedophilia a choice or is it genetic? Are they both psychological, or neither?

09-22-2011, 01:58 PM	#829 (permalink)
Thom Yorke Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,848	I wouldn't define it as a mental illness. You could almost call it a fetish. There are certain things that turn people on that they can't control and that's one of them. There are very few things that I think that people should not be allowed to practice, and paedophilia obviously falls into that category.