The problems with homosexuality

Mykonos · 09-22-2011, 01:15 AM

Surely allowing gay marriage would (theoretically) reduce promiscuity in gay communities, reducing the spread of HIV (again, only in theory)?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 09-22-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I doubt it is though. HIV is far more prevalent among heterosexuals than among lesbians.

Yeah hello Africa. Full of heterosexual people with AIDs. I think trying to beat people with statistics is a bit beside the point.

hip hop bunny hop · 09-22-2011, 07:46 AM

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I doubt it is though. HIV is far more prevalent among heterosexuals than among lesbians.

Why the doubt? Do you think the CDC is somehow biased against homosexuals? Do you think the study is somehow skewed? Because so far no one has presented alternative figures, and it strikes me as silly to just discount the only ones presented out of hand.

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Eh? When did I state that you oppose homosexual marriage because they are a minority?

....where I quoted you, If you (HHB f.ex) feel society are morally excused when it comes to discriminating against gays because they are such a small minority compared to the majority, you have to remember even 2% of the US population is still a lot of people, certainly enough to make some noise.

skaltezon · 09-22-2011, 08:02 AM

people should be able to express whatever sexual preference they like without being seriously hassled about it, as long as they aren't paedophiles.

Guybrush · 09-22-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

....where I quoted you, If you (HHB f.ex) feel society are morally excused when it comes to discriminating against gays because they are such a small minority compared to the majority, you have to remember even 2% of the US population is still a lot of people, certainly enough to make some noise.

Clearly you can't read properly because if you could, you would see I don't claim to know how you feel about anything. It says "if you".

If I'd written something like "if you are diabetic, you shouldn't eat too much sugar", would you accuse me of calling you a diabetic?

Mykonos · 09-22-2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by skaltezon

people should be able to express whatever sexual preference they like without being seriously hassled about it, as long as they aren't pedophiles.

Actually, in my opinion paedophiles should be allowed to have the right to be paedophiles. The difference comes to whether they're sexually attracted to children to the point of criminally assaulting them or not.

Paedantic Basterd · 09-22-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mykonos

Actually, in my opinion paedophiles should be allowed to have the right to be paedophiles. The difference comes to whether they're sexually attracted to children to the point of criminally assaulting them or not.

This made my skin crawl.

I realize that whether it's condoned or not, they will be pedophiles, but condoning it opens up the door for child abuse. No, maybe they aren't going to assault a child themselves, but acceptance of their attraction will support an industry that does; child pornography.

What good can come from encouraging the sexualization of children to adults? Viewing child pornography isn't a victimless crime, would you be encouraging that by encouraging pedophilia?

djchameleon · 09-22-2011, 10:54 AM

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This made my skin crawl.

I realize that whether it's condoned or not, they will be pedophiles, but condoning it opens up the door for child abuse. No, maybe they aren't going to assault a child themselves, but acceptance of their attraction will support an industry that does; child pornography.

he didn't specifically say it but I think maybe he was going towards accepting their attraction so they can get psychological help for it.

Paedantic Basterd · 09-22-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

he didn't specifically say it but I think maybe he was going towards accepting their attraction so they can get psychological help for it.

Then I'd be happy to hear him say it, because he's left me with heeby jeebies on that last note there.

Pedophilia is probably something a person wants to clarify their opinion on.

SIRIUSB · 09-22-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mykonos

Actually, in my opinion paedophiles should be allowed to have the right to be paedophiles. The difference comes to whether they're sexually attracted to children to the point of criminally assaulting them or not.

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Pedophile is defined as a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 or older) typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty may vary). The child must be at least five years younger in the case of adolescent pedophiles (16 or older) to be termed pedophilia. The term has a range of definitions, as found in psychiatry, psychology, the vernacular, and law enforcement.

Is it ok to 'have these thoughts' and not act on them, that may be debated in a moral stance.

Anything other than 'possibly' entertaining these thoughts I personally would deem of psychological detriment, immoral, and perhaps illegal.

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