Originally Posted by Harry (Post 911791)

You think it would be more difficult for a human with HIV to rape a woman, than a regular human? Doubtedly.
or an animal with such, for that matter.

Originally Posted by Harry (Post 911791)

Or a giraffe with a short neck who can't reach the taller trees, vs a long necked one.... you get the point.

Originally Posted by Harry (Post 911965)

Are we talking about just being inherit, or being natural (as in supposed to be)?

Anyways, but rape being a biological, natural thing to do (that we have to 'fight'), I agree would make that sickly/genetically weak being pass on its traits. But in order to evolve from certain traits, it takes mating with the most fit. So if all creatures needed to RAPE everyone, it would be counterproductive. Thus, all I am trying to say is that it doesn't make sense to have it be natural for all males to desire to rape females because it would cause spread of genetic anomalies, which is why there's choice and variation in the first place.

It does make sense in the key of 'selfishness' but not in a sense of productiveness. I still do not think sexual desire and rape are the same entity. Rapists have sexual desire but having sexual desire does not make you a rapist.

Originally Posted by tore (Post 911970)

What? I don't really understand what you mean. There doesn't have to be one reproductive strategy in a population or species. I can use an example I've used previously with fish. There are some fish species where male and female look very different. In some of these, the males keep harems and then they protect and have sex with the females in that harem. However, some males don't do this .. instead they too look like females and infiltrate the harems. Then they "sneaky fuck" the females in the harem.

The sneaky fuckers employ a reproductive strategy that exploits the normal strategy so it wouldn't exist on it's own. Also, if there are too many sneaky fuckers, the protective males probably get more vigilant and better at sniffing out the cheaters and sneaky fuckers might be competing too much with eachother etc. for it to be efficient. Thus, there should be some kind of ratio between regular harem keepers and sneaky fuckers. At any one point in time, a male would on average do better being either a sneaky fucker or a harem keeping male depending on how the ratio is. The result is that the sneaky fuckers are kept as a minority because that's when the strategy gives a fitness benefit.

If you hypothesize that rape is a biological strategy, it doesn't mean that it's the only strategy or something everyone would do. It could be a response from a minority of the population when they are put in a specific situation, such as not being able to get partners any other way.

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1468885)

There is some horrible, horrible people out there. Seriously I can't even.

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1468888)

Disgusting. I can't even imagine how traumatized I'd be if I was in her situation.