The Disorders and Character Flaws Thread

s_k · 12-01-2010, 08:27 PM

There's not much you can do.
I think your sympathy for him is a great thing to start with.
It seems to me he's too 'far gone' to have a normal life, but it's good to hear that he's in a class with other children. Isolating him would only make things worse.
My experience is that for people who have autism, social contact is hard, but very, very useful. I think the best you can do is be very patient with him and involve him in as much as possible. It might cause a lot of trouble, but I assure you that it will help him make social contact, if only a bit.

rondo · 12-01-2010, 09:03 PM

Bipolar here (although I'm not sure whether on the mild or heavy side, never been diagnosed)

Basically, it's just these huge mood swings out of nowhere! And usually when I look back at it a few days later, It feels kinda foolish

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But I do pretty much keep it to myself than to spread it about like a 'disease' to everyone around. 'Never sympathize with a depressive' - what they need is some sort of mind-altering treatment that would snap them out of their current routine.

s_k · 12-01-2010, 09:22 PM

Not sure about that, really.
I think in some cases an approach like that could kill people.

rondo · 12-01-2010, 09:49 PM

Kill them?

Yikes, never heard of that.

By 'mind-altering', I don't necessarily mean drugs. Just the way you talk and behave could get them to change their focus and stop those repetitive thought patters. This is usually out of genuine necessity to help really. I've never found sympathizing and reasoning to work that well. Usually it's when they feel better and 'cheer up' is when they change their minds and make better decisions.

s_k · 12-01-2010, 09:50 PM

I meant that it's not always bad to sympathize

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sidewinder · 12-02-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rondo

By 'mind-altering', I don't necessarily mean drugs. Just the way you talk and behave could get them to change their focus and stop those repetitive thought patters. This is usually out of genuine necessity to help really. I've never found sympathizing and reasoning to work that well. Usually it's when they feel better and 'cheer up' is when they change their minds and make better decisions.

The problem is it doesn't last. I've read many books, seen many movies, talked to many people and realized how I should be thinking or behaving, but it doesn't last. Yeah you make better decisions when you're on the 'up', but then the down comes again (without fail) and you're back to making dumb decisions and feeling like life is shit.

Stone Birds · 12-07-2010, 08:48 PM

i don't have any diagnosed disorders (yet) but have many MANY character flaws, everybody that knows me knows that, and even people who don't know probably do

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 12-07-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stone Birds

i don't have any diagnosed disorders (yet) but have many MANY character flaws, everybody that knows me knows that, and even people who don't know probably do

I remember reading you were bi-polar?

Stone Birds · 12-08-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan

I remember reading you were bi-polar?

is not officially disgnosed

ThePhanastasio · 12-08-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rondo

Bipolar here (although I'm not sure whether on the mild or heavy side, never been diagnosed)

Basically, it's just these huge mood swings out of nowhere! And usually when I look back at it a few days later, It feels kinda foolish

.

But I do pretty much keep it to myself than to spread it about like a 'disease' to everyone around. 'Never sympathize with a depressive' - what they need is some sort of mind-altering treatment that would snap them out of their current routine.

That doesn't really sound like Bipolar disorder to me - I am diagnosed.

The moodswings don't just come out of nowhere, really. It's not like you'll be happy one second then depressed an hour later, then angry five minutes after that - the moodswings are a lot more gradual.

I'm diagnosed with rapid cycling, and that just means I have a higher than average amount of episodes per year..

12-01-2010, 08:27 PM	#131 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	There's not much you can do. I think your sympathy for him is a great thing to start with. It seems to me he's too 'far gone' to have a normal life, but it's good to hear that he's in a class with other children. Isolating him would only make things worse. My experience is that for people who have autism, social contact is hard, but very, very useful. I think the best you can do is be very patient with him and involve him in as much as possible. It might cause a lot of trouble, but I assure you that it will help him make social contact, if only a bit. __________________ Click here to see my collection

12-01-2010, 09:03 PM	#132 (permalink)
rondo Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 71	Bipolar here (although I'm not sure whether on the mild or heavy side, never been diagnosed) Basically, it's just these huge mood swings out of nowhere! And usually when I look back at it a few days later, It feels kinda foolish . But I do pretty much keep it to myself than to spread it about like a 'disease' to everyone around. 'Never sympathize with a depressive' - what they need is some sort of mind-altering treatment that would snap them out of their current routine. __________________ I came to Berlin looking for love and success, but I decided to settle for sex, drugs and rock and roll.

12-01-2010, 09:22 PM	#133 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	Not sure about that, really. I think in some cases an approach like that could kill people. __________________ Click here to see my collection

12-01-2010, 09:49 PM	#134 (permalink)
rondo Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 71	Kill them? Yikes, never heard of that. By 'mind-altering', I don't necessarily mean drugs. Just the way you talk and behave could get them to change their focus and stop those repetitive thought patters. This is usually out of genuine necessity to help really. I've never found sympathizing and reasoning to work that well. Usually it's when they feel better and 'cheer up' is when they change their minds and make better decisions. __________________ I came to Berlin looking for love and success, but I decided to settle for sex, drugs and rock and roll.

12-01-2010, 09:50 PM	#135 (permalink)
s_k Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,206	I meant that it's not always bad to sympathize . __________________ Click here to see my collection

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