The scariest ****ing thing you've ever seen.

Lisnaholic · 02-11-2018, 08:41 AM

Exo's eye-witness account is very moving; it's still hard to believe what happened that day - even for people like me living a million miles away.

To Chula's point, I'd like to add that some skyscrapers are weaker than others, but lots of them follow this pretty generic floor plan:-

In terms of escape, it's all about how well-built the stair core is. In Britain they have to be conc encased so that they will retain their structural integrity for two hours. Unfortunately, the Twin Towers were built to a less demanding code, and instead of being encased in concrete, the escape core featured steelwork that was protected only by some kind of spray-on intumescent fire-resistant stuff. This wasn't sufficient to protect the steel from sustained heat and proved to be the fatal design weakness, especially when you consider that when hot, steelwork loses strength much faster than even a timber beam, for example, (that takes hours to burn through). Instead of standing for hours, the stair cores collapsed within minutes.

The villains of course are the terrorists, but the terrible death toll is partly due to the authorities who allowed the construction of such tall towers to such an inadequate specification.

Lucem Ferre · 02-11-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

Exo's eye-witness account is very moving; it's still hard to believe what happened that day - even for people like me living a million miles away.

To Chula's point, I'd like to add that some skyscrapers are weaker than others, but lots of them follow this pretty generic floor plan:-

In terms of escape, it's all about how well-built the stair core is. In Britain they have to be conc encased so that they will retain their structural integrity for two hours. Unfortunately, the Twin Towers were built to a less demanding code, and instead of being encased in concrete, the escape core featured steelwork that was protected only by some kind of spray-on intumescent fire-resistant stuff. This wasn't sufficient to protect the steel from sustained heat and proved to be the fatal design weakness, especially when you consider that when hot, steelwork loses strength much faster than even a timber beam, for example, (that takes hours to burn through). Instead of standing for hours, the stair cores collapsed within minutes.

The villains of course are the terrorists, but the terrible death toll is partly due to the authorities who allowed the construction of such tall towers to such an inadequate specification.

Confirmed. The twin towers were poorly constructed by the Bush's so the death toll would rise thus getting public approval to invade Iraq for oil and Saddam Hussein's moving towards an independent currency that threatened to replace American currency as the petrodollar.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 02-11-2018, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

It shouldn't. I've spent an entire career as a mechanical designer/engineer. Tensile stress, thermal expansion, buckling, shear strength, structural integrity, plasticity, melting points, etc. have been my stock and trade for over three decades.

Being familiar with the design of the twin towers I didn't have to wait for the official explanation to know why they fell like they did. The most amazing thing was that they stood as long as they did being that they were basically a vertical domino design. Once one floor fell, they all fall.

I majored in structural civil engineering, so don't try to impress me.

But thouands upon thousands upon thousands of architects and engineers beg to differ: Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth

Please give me a list of any and all structures that you have had any part in designing or building, so that I can make sure to steer clear of them for teh rest of my life.

The Twin towers were built to withstand plane crashes. As a truther and a former structural civil engineer, this case is most intriguing to me. And you all seem to not understand how buildings work, like, at all [I used that phrase instead of calling you all dumbasses and sheeple].

A B-25 Bomber hit the Empire State Buulding in 1945. Anyone care to guess what the outcome was?

**Frownland** · 02-11-2018, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

The Twin towers were built to withstand plane crashes.

It says so right in the pamphlet!

~~[MERIT]~~ · 02-11-2018, 09:28 PM

While researching the events of 9/11, the name of a certain company kept popping up: CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, INC [CDI]. Founded in 1947, the demolition company has contracts with the U.S. government’s Department of Defense, Department of Energy, Department of Housing and Urban Development, Department of Justice, State Department and Army Corps of Engineers.

CDI literally patented the method for demolishing buildings via nuclear demolition [specifically underground nuclear demolition]. They are a small, privately-owned company with no SEC filings, stockholders or board of directors. They are believed to only employee around 15 individuals.

CDI has numerous ties to the World Trade Center’s Twin Towers. Before construction on the towers began in 1966, it was necessary for their builders to get legal approval for construction from the New York state Department of Buildings. At the behest of then-governor NELSON ROCKEFELLER [an Illuminati bloodline], CDI was contracted to come up with a method for demolishing the future towers. Once the plans were in place, CDI was awarded multiple patents for their nuclear demolition methods.

On 9/11, it appeared that relatively small kicker charges [mini-nukes] were set off inside the Twin Towers to help destroy structural steel beams. Later, large underground nuclear charges may have been set off, collapsing the building into its own footprint [most likely using CDI’s method called DREXS: Directional Remote Explosive Severance]. I believe that CDI was the agency who was contracted to perform the demolition, as they were contracted to oversee the cleanup of the site after the demolition.

[NOTE: CDI was also contracted to oversee the cleanup of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City after it was bombed in another government-sponsored false flag in 1995. They have fulfilled government demolition contracts in countries such as the USA, Russia, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Bulgaria, Germany and Lebanon.]

Former CDI explosives leader THOMAS J. SULLIVAN has gone on record stating that the Twin Towers DID NOT collapse naturally and that CDI had the technology to bring them down in a controlled fashion, saying:
“I knew from day one this was a controlled event.”

While talking with a fellow truther, the idea of pre-installed nuclear devices in buildings came up. Were the Twin Towers constructed with nuclear devices already in place for their future demolition [9/11]? I contacted CDI to ask them about this. I received multiple automated responses asking for personal info before they could reply. I provided everything that they asked for, but am yet to receive a reply to my inquiry.

Former Soviet Nuclear Intelligence Officer DIMITRI A. KHALEZOV shared this idea in his book “The ‘Third’ Truth About 9/11: Defending The U.S. Government Which Has Only The First Two,” saying:

“The Twin Towers were brought down by a certain controlled demolition procedure because such a possibility to demolish the Twins was their in-built feature; the WTC-7 later shared the same fate. This ‘certain’ controlled demolition procedure was nothing else than a built-in demolition feature of the WTC buildings 1, 2 and 7 that existed in these buildings from the time of their construction. This ‘certain’ in-built controlled demolition feature was based on nothing else than very powerful thermonuclear charges positioned deep underground beneath each building … Moreover, such a built-in demolition feature was not only peculiar to the World Trade Center in New York; it was also a part of the United Nations Building in New York and of the Sears Tower in Chicago, and, almost certainly, even that of the Petronas Towers in Kuala-Lumpur, Malaysia … The U.S. Government decided to collapse the Twin Towers by their in-built nuclear demolition scheme.”

~~[MERIT]~~ · 02-11-2018, 09:38 PM

The Nuclear Demolition Of The World Trade Center

Controlled Demolition, Inc. and a list of their contracts.

Controlled Demolition, Inc. [Wikipedia]

Nuclear Demolition Of SkyScrapers [Dimitri Khalezov]

Building A Case Against Controlled Demolition, Inc.

DREXS [Directional Remote Explosive Severance]

OccultHawk · 02-11-2018, 09:42 PM

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A B-25 Bomber hit the Empire State Buulding in 1945. Anyone care to guess what the outcome was?

lol...really?

B-25

Weight: 21,100 pounds empty, 33,000 pounds loaded, 41,800 pounds maximum overload.

767

Weight: 450,000 lb

It’s easy to give a piggyback ride to 41 lb kid. It’s hard to give a piggyback ride to a 450 lb sumo wrestler.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 02-11-2018, 09:45 PM

Former employee of Controlled Demolition, Inc. talks about the WTC collapses

FORMER EXPLOSIVES LOADER FOR CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, INC. SPEAKS OUT

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“I knew from day one this was a controlled event. And why I did that was simply looking at Building 7. You have a sudden collapse of a building; it’s fairly symmetrical as it comes down. There’s a classic kink, which means the center core collapses first. You can see that on the video. And the building falls near freefall. So I really, honestly, didn’t believe this from day one, because this is the way buildings classically come down with controlled demolition.”

~~[MERIT]~~ · 02-11-2018, 09:47 PM

Super neato cool analogy OH! [/sarcasm] Hope it helps you sleep at night, knowing that your government has no problem killing it's own citizens.

OccultHawk · 02-11-2018, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by [MERIT]

Super neato cool analogy OH! [/sarcasm] Hope it helps you sleep at night, knowing that your government has no problem killing it's own citizens.

I don’t need pretend reasons to hate America.

02-11-2018, 08:41 AM	#211 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	Exo's eye-witness account is very moving; it's still hard to believe what happened that day - even for people like me living a million miles away. To Chula's point, I'd like to add that some skyscrapers are weaker than others, but lots of them follow this pretty generic floor plan:- In terms of escape, it's all about how well-built the stair core is. In Britain they have to be conc encased so that they will retain their structural integrity for two hours. Unfortunately, the Twin Towers were built to a less demanding code, and instead of being encased in concrete, the escape core featured steelwork that was protected only by some kind of spray-on intumescent fire-resistant stuff. This wasn't sufficient to protect the steel from sustained heat and proved to be the fatal design weakness, especially when you consider that when hot, steelwork loses strength much faster than even a timber beam, for example, (that takes hours to burn through). Instead of standing for hours, the stair cores collapsed within minutes. The villains of course are the terrorists, but the terrible death toll is partly due to the authorities who allowed the construction of such tall towers to such an inadequate specification. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

02-11-2018, 09:28 PM	#215 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	Were The Twin Towers Doomed From The Beginning? While researching the events of 9/11, the name of a certain company kept popping up: *CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, INC* [*CDI]. Founded in 1947, the demolition company has contracts with the U.S. government’s Department of Defense, Department of Energy, Department of Housing and Urban Development, Department of Justice, State Department and Army Corps of Engineers. CDI literally patented the method for demolishing buildings via nuclear demolition [specifically underground nuclear demolition]. They are a small, privately-owned company with no SEC filings, stockholders or board of directors. They are believed to only employee around 15 individuals. CDI has numerous ties to the World Trade Center’s Twin Towers. Before construction on the towers began in 1966, it was necessary for their builders to get legal approval for construction from the New York state Department of Buildings. At the behest of then-governor NELSON ROCKEFELLER [an Illuminati bloodline], CDI was contracted to come up with a method for demolishing the future towers. Once the plans were in place, CDI was awarded multiple patents for their nuclear demolition methods. On 9/11, it appeared that relatively small kicker charges [mini-nukes] were set off inside the Twin Towers to help destroy structural steel beams. Later, large underground nuclear charges may have been set off, collapsing the building into its own footprint [most likely using CDI’s method called DREXS: Directional Remote Explosive Severance]. I believe that CDI was the agency who was contracted to perform the demolition, as they were contracted to oversee the cleanup of the site after the demolition. [NOTE: CDI was also contracted to oversee the cleanup of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City after it was bombed in another government-sponsored false flag in 1995. They have fulfilled government demolition contracts in countries such as the USA, Russia, Kenya, Tanzania, Mozambique, Bulgaria, Germany and Lebanon.] Former CDI explosives leader THOMAS J. SULLIVAN has gone on record stating that the Twin Towers DID NOT collapse naturally and that CDI had the technology to bring them down in a controlled fashion, saying: “I knew from day one this was a controlled event.” While talking with a fellow truther, the idea of pre-installed nuclear devices in buildings came up. Were the Twin Towers constructed with nuclear devices already in place for their future demolition [9/11]? I contacted CDI to ask them about this. I received multiple automated responses asking for personal info before they could reply. I provided everything that they asked for, but am yet to receive a reply to my inquiry. Former Soviet Nuclear Intelligence Officer DIMITRI A. KHALEZOV* shared this idea in his book “The ‘Third’ Truth About 9/11: Defending The U.S. Government Which Has Only The First Two,” saying: “The Twin Towers were brought down by a certain controlled demolition procedure because such a possibility to demolish the Twins was their in-built feature; the WTC-7 later shared the same fate. This ‘certain’ controlled demolition procedure was nothing else than a built-in demolition feature of the WTC buildings 1, 2 and 7 that existed in these buildings from the time of their construction. This ‘certain’ in-built controlled demolition feature was based on nothing else than very powerful thermonuclear charges positioned deep underground beneath each building … Moreover, such a built-in demolition feature was not only peculiar to the World Trade Center in New York; it was also a part of the United Nations Building in New York and of the Sears Tower in Chicago, and, almost certainly, even that of the Petronas Towers in Kuala-Lumpur, Malaysia … The U.S. Government decided to collapse the Twin Towers by their in-built nuclear demolition scheme.”

02-11-2018, 09:38 PM	#216 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	*The Nuclear Demolition Of The World Trade Center* *Controlled Demolition, Inc.* and a list of their contracts. *Controlled Demolition, Inc.* [Wikipedia] *Nuclear Demolition Of SkyScrapers* [Dimitri Khalezov] Building A Case Against Controlled Demolition, Inc. DREXS [Directional Remote Explosive Severance]

02-11-2018, 09:47 PM	#219 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	Super neato cool analogy OH! [/sarcasm] Hope it helps you sleep at night, knowing that your government has no problem killing it's own citizens.