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it's the truth. i really did.

it is called a Bedini Monopole Generator.

ive seen them on the net lots of times, but never had an extra 400 bucks lying around to build one. someone i know did though, and today i witnessed something that the governments and the financial elite of the world have been trying to suppress for a very, very long time.

i will come back to this thread periodically to post some links and tend to all the people who call it impossible when considering the 2nd law of thermodynamics and any other random thing people come up with to abide by the restrictions of their conditionings.

the main idea behind this thread though, is to help along the coming of a critical mass which creates global consciousness of and demand for these types of machines. please research free energy and Do-It-Yourself (DIY) guides to creating these things yourself. the oil companies will not allow the mass-creation of these things, and it's up to us to create them anyway.

bye for now.

P A N

here are the instructions that were used to build the machine i saw today:

Bedini Energizer Building Manual

i cannot express with what conviction i urge whoever reads this to build one of these.

mr dave

so from the start... it's explaining how to build a basic electromagnetic brush generator, not unlike my grade 10 physics textbook.

how is it possible in an environment still affected by gravity?

hold on... page 4 of the building plans (or 44 according to the file, great numbering ability).... "The system is fed by conventional electricity from a battery or a power supply unit plugged into the wall".

while there is no denying that a spike in energy is created when the magnets are charged and polarities reversed, the documentation does little to clarify the actual method of how the charged electrons are drawn from the device and moved to their storage area, all of which would cause an obvious deterioration to the overall efficiency of the device.


as soon as you make you're 401st dollar from this invention i'll honestly start thinking about it. seriously dude, you didn't even invest YOUR own money into the thing. yeah... sounds totally legit... just like every other zero point energy patent out there.


rather than urge people to build one of those send me a dollar, just 1, and i promise i'll project good vibes to the universe on your behalf and awesome things will happen to you.

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P A N

that last line was really unexpected. do you want that in US currency?

i don't know why it's possible in an environment still affected by gravity... i also don't know why it wouldn't be.

when the guy showed me his, he said that people who think they know about electricity will talk about this thing in terms of what they know, likely resulting in disbelief. i'm not here to prove anything, because i've seen it with my own eyes. i will START proving things when i can afford to build one.

the machine needs an input. you can use a battery, cuz that way you can monitor how much charge is left. it also needs an output, which is also a battery. when you monitor this battery's charge, you will indeed see that the charge goes up faster than it goes down in the first battery. it has something to do with capturing "back EMF" waves or currents or something. i'm not too savvy when it comes to wires and stuff, but i can read, and those gauges don't lie.

and regarding those patents and their legitimacy: i think it would be wise to note that there are over 4000 patents at the US patent office involving devices of this nature. for one thing, you don't get patents for things that don't work. secondly, the financial elite know how the world has to work in order for them to retain any of their power, and free energy is not part of that imagined paradigm.

VEGANGELICA

Zevokes, people actually can and do get patents for devices that don't work or have never been created such that they can't be tested. As an example, from the wikipedia page on perpetual motion machines:

I haven't read a lot yet about the Bendini Monopole Generator in order to point out the precise flaws in the assumption that it is creating free energy, but from what I have read it appears to simply be a device that can be used to charge batteries, no more and no less.

Any machine that supposedly violates known laws of thermodynamics should be viewed with suspicion. A *lot* of suspicion. And that is an understatement.

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friction. it's why there's no such thing as 1:1 or better energy efficiency yet.



that last bit about the $1 and good vibes was from The Simpsons when Homer found an autodialer in the trash.



as for the battery thing, have you seen a charged battery swapped out and become the power source to charge and even bigger battery yet? or have you just seen a pair of gauges where one needle is higher than the other? of course the receiving end is going to have a higher 'charge' than the provider, one is expending energy, the other is static. when that first part happens THEN and ONLY then do you actually have something revolutionary, until that happens all you've got is another bottle of Dr. Neptune's Fantastic Elixir for all that ails you.

'back EMF' sounds about as solid as anti-matter. so it's capturing a reverse electromagnetic field? how does that actually work? where's the actual science? it's not like a positive EMF field is actually different than a negative EMF field, only whether or not it's heavier with protons or electrons.

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P A N

all i'm going to say about wikipedia is that if you use it to find information at all pertaining to anything having to do with politics in the world, you have too much faith in the idea that the controllers of available information are good people.

as far as a device used to charge batteries, if you are getting out more than you are putting in - which i watched happen - you have free energy.

it doesn't violate the known laws of thermodynamics either. it's just a product of them being applied in a very unconventional way.

VEGANGELICA

What I like about Wikipedia is that it provides the exact opposite of controlled information: volunteers write the articles and anyone who logs in can edit them. The information is not controlled by a single authority, but rather incorporates the wealth of knowledge of regular people all over the world.

Since the Wikipedia articles are not reviewed by experts in given fields, the chance of errors is higher than with a peer-reviewed journal, but citations are provided so that you can look at the original sources of information, making many of the articles quite scholarly, I feel.

I suggest this article by Tom Napier, which points out problems with "perpetual motion" machines (which appear to have greater output of energy than input), and criticizes observations of input and output needles as a source of "proof" that the "free energy creating" device is actually doing what the creator claims:

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Diesel subs run on a rechargeable battery, and you dont even have to plug it in.

Not impressed.

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Lew Harrison, who looked like an anarchist with his red eyes and fierce black beard, had been writing furiously in one corner of the room. "That's good—happiness by the kilowatt," he said. "Buy your happiness the way you buy light."

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Yeah, but all Navy subs are all nuclear now anyway. So obviously nuclear power is more efficient than diesel.

But on topic,

Even if this machine does work, I don't think it can be classified as "free energy" or "perpetual motion" or whatever you want to call it these days. You're still wasting battery life to gain battery life, even if the output is greater than the input, you are still creating waste in the form of depleted batteries. Not to mention the fact that your machine relies on energy storage in batteries, which have a shelf life. This may be a cool little invention, but it's not "free energy" IMO.

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