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Old 05-27-2010, 10:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:28 PM   #32 (permalink)
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No miracles. Everything in life occurs in the exact way it was predestined to.
That statement was so oxymoronic that it was sarcasm, even if you didn't mean it to be.
(But I do hope you did)
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Old 05-28-2010, 10:59 PM   #33 (permalink)
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.. Stuff like the existence of stars or the emergence of life are not really miracles. While surviving tough odds may be a really unlikely event, I think the emergence of life on our planet considering it's placement, size and the presence of water etc. was basically inevitable. Assuming life emerged once and then all life descended from that one event (doesn't have to be true at all), if that event hadn't happened when it did, I believe it would've happened on a later occasion anyways!
Life on Earth is a miracle. The Earth itself is a miracle, how it was formed and all. I think the miracle of life is just taken for granite.
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Old 05-28-2010, 11:12 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Life on Earth is a miracle. The Earth itself is a miracle, how it was formed and all. I think the miracle of life is just taken for granite.
I think granite is taken for granted.
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:02 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Life on Earth is a miracle. The Earth itself is a miracle, how it was formed and all. I think the miracle of life is just taken for granite.
Wood you consider your beleaf in miracles to not extend into supernatural occurrences, or is that a tuff question to answer?
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That statement was so oxymoronic that it was sarcasm, even if you didn't mean it to be.
(But I do hope you did)
How's that? You realise that miracle and predestination are two entirely separate entities, aye?
There are no miracles cos a miracle would infer that something out of the ordinary that 'wasn't supposed to happen' did (i.e. mum had a brain aneurysm and miraculously recovered from a half dead state). But in terms of predestination, miracles don't exist cos what was supposed to happen was planned out all along.
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How's that? You realise that miracle and predestination are two entirely separate entities, aye?
There are no miracles cos a miracle would infer that something out of the ordinary that 'wasn't supposed to happen' did (i.e. mum had a brain aneurysm and miraculously recovered from a half dead state). But in terms of predestination, miracles don't exist cos what was supposed to happen was planned out all along.
Predestination infers an external enforcer.
Supernatural miracles do too. Funny...

But either way, you're assuming that what may have miraculously happened wasn't "meant to be". How do you know that wasn't what was actually meant to be?
I think all of it is utter cunt juice, but go ahead with what you will.
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Predestination infers an external enforcer.
Supernatural miracles do too. Funny...

But either way, you're assuming that what may have miraculously happened wasn't "meant to be". How do you know that wasn't what was actually meant to be?
I think all of it is utter cunt juice, but go ahead with what you will.
If it was 'meant to be' then it wasn't 'miraculous'
And I am not inferring any external enforcer. I didn't say GOD MADE EVERYTHING FOR A REASON ,that ain't wot I'm saying at all... cos I certainly do not believe that. Predestination as in lack of free will. You're watching life like a film, while you think you're making choices but in 'reality' the choice is already made and the future already ahead of you.
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