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View Poll Results: Stem cells. Yay or nay?
Yes! Bring it on! 35 97.22%
No. I'm against it. 1 2.78%
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Old 05-10-2010, 07:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I understand the ethical dilemma behind it though - that stem cells are coming from embryos and the umbilical cords of unborn fetuses
Pretty much that.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:21 PM   #32 (permalink)
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is this a joke?
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:24 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I don't know but I lol'd.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:54 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:31 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that's a joke. Christianity has been proven wrong at almost every turn. I'm also wondering how those things have proven science wrong. Science is not a theory!
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:04 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Christianity has been proven wrong at almost every turn.
really? if you could show me where the metaphysical claims made by christians have been proven wrong, i'd love to see it
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:19 AM   #37 (permalink)
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really? if you could show me where the metaphysical claims made by christians have been proven wrong, i'd love to see it
I think we're better served by what can be proven right. But I get what you're saying. I'd love that kind of evidence as well... impossible to get though, as you obviously know. Which kinda supports my point.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:57 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Not true at all. Adult stem cells do indeed have similar qualities, but are limited to becoming cells of their tissue of origin. They are also incredibly hard to grow in culture and are also scarce in an adult. Embryonic stem cells have the potential to become any cell in the human body and are much easier to grow in culture. This is why I mentioned we will eventually find a way to produce them without the need of an embryo at all.

Not true at all? Explain why the statement 'There are adult stem cells and embryonic stem cell.' is not true at all.

'From what I heard adult stem cells provide positive results, sceintist really don't need to experiment on human embryos.'
Do you have proof that adult stem cells were never used for treatment, just curious how everything I said was not true at all.



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I can understand the moral dilemma here...but there will be abortions whether we like it or not. Why not honor that potential life by allowing it to provide life to someone else?
There is no dilemma, you don't do something unethical. Stem cell research where the stem cell come from embryonic and fetuses is unethical. It violates the natural law to interfere or disrupt the natural process of a human embryo or a human fetus that is developing into a human baby and develope thereafter into a human person. All human beings come from human embryos that is a undeniable scientific fact, and likewise one should understand that a human embryo purpose is to develope into a human being, not to be a part of an experiment. I can not see how abortion can provide life when abrotion takes life away person that was aborted. That is not the purpose of a human being to loose hers/his life before it begins. I can not see how technology take life away from one person and in that same process promises to benefit the life of another.

How can science benefit mankind from any forbidden experiment?
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:05 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Not true at all? Explain why the statement 'There are adult stem cells and embryonic stem cell.' is not true at all.

'From what I heard adult stem cells provide positive results, sceintist really don't need to experiment on human embryos.'
Do you have proof that adult stem cells were never used for treatment, just curious how everything I said was not true at all.
Did you read my whole post? Obviously, I understand there are 2 types of stem cells. Your claim that adult stem cells are just as useful as embryonic stem cells is what I was referring to.


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There is no dilemma, you don't do something unethical. Stem cell research where the stem cell come from embryonic and fetuses is unethical. It violates the natural law to interfere or disrupt the natural process of a human embryo or a human fetus that is developing into a human baby and develope thereafter into a human person. All human beings come from human embryos that is a undeniable scientific fact, and likewise one should understand that a human embryo purpose is to develope into a human being, not to be a part of an experiment. I can not see how abortion can provide life when abrotion takes life away person that was aborted. That is not the purpose of a human being to loose hers/his life before it begins. I can not see how technology take life away from one person and in that same process promises to benefit life to another.

How can science benefit mankind from any forbidden experiment?
Ok...you may be firm in your belief that any study of embryonic stem cells is unethical, but that in no way makes it absolutely so. Discussing that exact issue is the whole point of this thread. Therein lies the DILEMMA.

I don't know how I can explain my point of view any more clearly than in my past few posts, so...we disagree, I guess. Are you pro-life, then? I am firmly pro-choice. As I said, there will be abortions whether you like it or not. This leaves a dead fetus. You now have two options. Dispose of it, or use its stem cells to provide life to someone currently living. Since the choice to kill it is obviously the mother's, the choice to donate its stem cells should also be hers.
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