Is Stephen Hawking ****ing with us?

Neapolitan · 04-25-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

What if their home planet was on the verge of collapse and they needed a new one or their entire species would be gone? You think humans would politely move over to accommodate an entire alien race along the side of us? Not only that, but there probably wouldn't be enough room or resources. So the more intelligent, advanced species is going to be smart enough (not necessarily immoral enough) to decide whether he wants his species to survive or not... this could end up an extermination. By either side. At the very least, it would be war.

I really doubt if ETIs exist and (it's a big if) IF they did they would be both be hostile and technologically advance for time/space travel!? I doubt that, I think it would take a peaceful ETI civilization to accomplish time/space travel (or interdemensional space travel at that). But if they are so advance they probably could terra-form other planets in their solar systems, or a planet in a nearby solar systems in there own galaxy or in the vicinity of their own galaxy cluster. The odds they would find our Sun in the vastness of the universe and scientifically infer it has a planets and gamble one can sustain life, the odds are astronomical to say the least.

Astronomer · 04-26-2010, 12:48 AM

^ I agree with this and believe that if there are aliens or other civilizations out there, I doubt we will ever know or find/ come across them.

pourmeanother · 04-26-2010, 02:47 AM

They can try to attack us for our resources, but as long as we have Will Smith and that other guy they will probably fail.

Guybrush · 04-26-2010, 02:51 AM

I believe this quote was a comment to the sending of the friendly container thingie sent into space with recordings of our music, teachings of our alphabet and so on. I think it's a reasonable assumption that if there is an alien species able to travel here, our planet would be of interest to them because it has evolved life and functional ecosystems and the resources that comes with it. Whether they'd be friendly or not .. I don't know. The best strategy for them could be to get rid of us without destroying the planet. However, I think a society with that level of technological advancement would be a peaceful one, at least with eachother. I don't think the "hive mind" species which are popular in sci-fi could get tecnologically advanced enough, so I believe it would be societies of individuals with a sense of morality.

All in all, I don't really believe in the technology required for them to come here in any reasonable timespan. We may be dead and gone before they ever show up.

boo boo · 04-26-2010, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pourmeanother

They can try to attack us for our resources, but as long as we have Will Smith and that other guy they will probably fail.

That's no way to talk about the great Jeff Goldblum.

**Janszoon** · 04-26-2010, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

All in all, I don't really believe in the technology required for them to come here in any reasonable timespan. We may be dead and gone before they ever show up.

But what if they're already on their way!

Astronomer · 04-26-2010, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude

Regardless, he's freaking out a lot of people. Initial reaction reading that is OMG!!!11 ALIENS IZ GOING TA KILL MEH!!!!111 Does he think we're about to interact with aliens and he's gotta stop us or is he doing for shiits and giggles (shiggles)?
Or maybe they don't care.

I'm hoping for the eventual annihilation of the human race. I figure we had a good run, but we pretty much suck.

After reading Hawking's original comments, the press have totally blown out of proportion what he was saying to make him look crazy. He was just discussing hypothetical possibilities about life other than on Earth, and proposing hypothetical situations of what might happen if they we did encounter aliens. Now everybody is panicking saying that Stephen Hawking told us aliens are going to come and take over the planet.

Guybrush · 04-26-2010, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

But what if they're already on their way!

That could of course be

My comment was an answer to Hawking's warning that people shouldn't try to contact aliens. If you send radiowaves into space, trying to get into contact with aliens .. it could take millions upon millions of years before they reach a different civilization! Then they'd have to travel here in response. By the time someone recieves our signals and trace them to our planet, we're likely to be extinct. Then it would be someone elses problem entirely.

If our planet is or has been discovered, I don't think it has or will be because of our attempts to communicate. We humans have already started searching for other earth like planets in other solar systems which is of course possible since celestial bodies reflect and emit radiation. Basically, you can see them with a big enough telescope, directly because of reasons mentioned or indirectly as they f.ex pass in front of other celestial bodies which emit radiation. Our own planet should be discoverable by the same means .. and at least planet earth has been broadcasting that sort of information since it's birth some few billion years ago which is a bit longer than modern attempts with antennas and information capsules.

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It's so funny that people are worrying about this

cardboard adolescent · 04-26-2010, 10:00 AM

yes aliens are out there but only sinners should be worried about it

right-track · 04-26-2010, 11:34 AM

* returns overdue library book

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Astronomer we are stardust Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,894	^ I agree with this and believe that if there are aliens or other civilizations out there, I doubt we will ever know or find/ come across them. __________________

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	I believe this quote was a comment to the sending of the friendly container thingie sent into space with recordings of our music, teachings of our alphabet and so on. I think it's a reasonable assumption that if there is an alien species able to travel here, our planet would be of interest to them because it has evolved life and functional ecosystems and the resources that comes with it. Whether they'd be friendly or not .. I don't know. The best strategy for them could be to get rid of us without destroying the planet. However, I think a society with that level of technological advancement would be a peaceful one, at least with eachother. I don't think the "hive mind" species which are popular in sci-fi could get tecnologically advanced enough, so I believe it would be societies of individuals with a sense of morality. All in all, I don't really believe in the technology required for them to come here in any reasonable timespan. We may be dead and gone before they ever show up. __________________ Something Completely Different

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