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mr dave 04-16-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 851615)
Anonymity on the internet gives pretty much anyone license to be Adolf Hitler.

and removing said anonymity has people rioting in the streets about big brother watching over their shoulder and the dissolution of free speech.

stupid people will spread their stupidity wherever they can without concern. you can't stop them from doing that. you can however limit their influence by refusing to pander to their level of crap.

they're only words on a screen after all, you're the one who makes the conscious decision to give them worth.

someonecompletelyrandom 04-16-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by james44754 (Post 851619)
You're forgetting homophobia people are constantly calling people ***s and other derogetory terms and it's ridiculous.

F*gs are just people who ride Harleys. Don't you watch South Park? :rolleyes:

lucifer_sam 04-16-2010 04:02 PM

Okay if I delete that last bit of nonsense then and put it behind us? Moving onwards!

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-16-2010 04:05 PM

I don't think it's genuinely anything hateful. I just think it's more the mob mentality.

One person does it so everybody else follows.
I think the two worst things on the internet are stupidity & attention seeking rather than bigotry or hate because even the most reasonable of people are much more capable of displaying those two traits.

someonecompletelyrandom 04-16-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 851629)
That's exactly what Youtube should do. They don't know how to regulate anything at all. Except for when a video uses a 5 second sample of a copyrighted song, then they'll gladly strip away the entire f*cking audio without permission.

C*nts.

I couldn't agree more. They remove for fear of copyright infringement before they'll remove hate-speech. Tells you how much power copyright has these days.

Of course somebody could argue that it's an issue of free speech... to to them I say IT'S THE INTERNET. Anybody in the world can see and use it so free speech doesn't even need to apply. Of course that kind of thinking can easily turn dangerous/corrupt... it's a real dilemma.

lucifer_sam 04-16-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 851685)
I couldn't agree more. They remove for fear of copyright infringement before they'll remove hate-speech. Tells you how much power copyright has these days.

Of course somebody could argue that it's an issue of free speech... to to them I say IT'S THE INTERNET. Anybody in the world can see and use it so free speech doesn't even need to apply. Of course that kind of thinking can easily turn dangerous/corrupt... it's a real dilemma.

Well those people that argue that ignore the fact that it's a private institution and is completely entitled to placing whatever rules it wants as far as free speech go. Free speech is free, but whenever you're using someone else's media as a form of publication it becomes restricted to whatever rules they set in place.

It's really not rocket science.

boo boo 04-16-2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 851683)
I don't think it's genuinely anything hateful. I just think it's more the mob mentality.

One person does it so everybody else follows.
I think the two worst things on the internet are stupidity & attention seeking rather than bigotry or hate because even the most reasonable of people are much more capable of displaying those two traits.

I don't get it, peer pressure on the internet is like the stupidest f*cking thing ever.

In outside society, sure, but the internet?

Anyone who does something they don't want to do just to appear cool on the internet is an idiot, though it's no mystery that most internet users are idiots so you could be right.

But anyone who says those kinda things must not object to what they're saying if they're not saying it out of irony. Would a bleeding hurt liberal want to conform to a group of a racist neo cons? Of course not.

I guess the best explanation is that a lot of people just don't have any views on anything to call their own so they adopt other people's opinions out of coolness. But why anyone considers youtube commenters cool enough to imitate is beyond me.

Freebase Dali 04-16-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 851685)
I couldn't agree more. They remove for fear of copyright infringement before they'll remove hate-speech. Tells you how much power copyright has these days.

Of course somebody could argue that it's an issue of free speech... to to them I say IT'S THE INTERNET. Anybody in the world can see and use it so free speech doesn't even need to apply. Of course that kind of thinking can easily turn dangerous/corrupt... it's a real dilemma.

Not that I think the internet should be regulated to the extent of not being able to freely express your ideas using it, but assuming that it's a boundless entity to which all people are entitled and not affected by law is kind of unrealistic. It's not like a case of committing crimes on international waters. All aspects of what makes the internet the internet are governed in an operational extent by the locale in which the web servers, routers, connection links, infrastructures, etc. are governed.
Just because anyone in the world who has access to the internet can use it as a communication medium doesn't mean that a country's policies regarding it don't apply.

Freebase Dali 04-16-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 851694)
I don't get it, peer pressure on the internet is like the stupidest f*cking thing ever.

In outside society, sure, but the internet?

Anyone who does something they don't want to do just to appear cool on the internet is an idiot, though it's no mystery that most internet users are idiots so you could be right.

But anyone who says those kinda things must not object to what they're saying if they're not saying it out of irony. Would a bleeding hurt liberal want to conform to a group of a racist neo cons? Of course not.

I guess the best explanation is that a lot of people just don't have any views on anything to call their own so they adopt other people's opinions out of coolness. But why anyone considers youtube commenters cool enough to imitate is beyond me.

I seriously hope you haven't overestimated the tendencies of a large demographic of internet users and are now disappointed by your massive failure to predict the outcome.......
So far, that's all your argument is betraying.
You're an intelligent guy. You should have known that not everyone on the internet is going to be as reasonable as you hope they are.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-16-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 851694)
I don't get it, peer pressure on the internet is like the stupidest f*cking thing ever.

In outside society, sure, but the internet?

Anyone who does something they don't want to do just to appear cool on the internet is an idiot, though it's no mystery that most internet users are idiots so you could be right.

But anyone who says those kinda things must not object to what they're saying if they're not saying it out of irony. Would a bleeding hurt liberal want to conform to a group of a racist neo cons? Of course not.

I guess the best explanation is that a lot of people just don't have any views on anything to call their own so they adopt other people's opinions out of coolness. But why anyone considers youtube commenters cool enough to imitate is beyond me.

Yes but we're talking about the general public here.
The kind of people who use text speak and are more interested in who wins Britain / America / Uzbekistan's got talent than who the leader of their country is.


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