It's been close to a year... Thoughts on Obama

duga · 04-02-2010, 05:16 PM

This is the way I look at it...the government wants my money. They take my money. This fact is obvious every time I get a paycheck. There are a lot of people complaining that the lower class is going to be taking our tax money for healthcare and not have to work for it while we have to. Well, you know what? I don't care. I would much rather know that my tax money is going to keeping people alive rather than killing more people in several wars I don't support.

crash_override · 04-02-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

I feel like keying all the cars in this hick state that have bumper stickers saying "impeach Obama Bin Laden".

Wtf has he done worth impeaching? It's fine if you don't agree with the guy, but if you really feel like he should be impeached you deserve a kick in the balls.

I love my home state, but there are a lot of conservatives there. Especially in the smaller southern towns.

Burning Down · 04-02-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DarwinWasAdopted

Is there anyone out there who actually knows what socialism is anymore?

....anybody?

That aside, I find it funny how the US catches up with the rest of the industrialized world and everybody seems to think the ****ing sky is falling. Trust me, you'll like your "socialist" health care better.

First of all, you're generalizing. But I know what you're saying. There are SOME Americans who are afraid of change or who don't want to accept change so they respond by saying negative things about it. However, your post implies that all Canadians (and people around the world) are thinking like this. Again, you're generalizing. Like lucifer sam stated, the superiority that some Canadians feel our country has over the US is annoying. Not to mention that it's absolutely ridiculous. Canada has its flaws as well - starting with the current government, or more specifically, Stephen Harper.

I think the passing of the health care bill has really cemented Obama's legacy, whether he is re-elected in 2012 or not. The fact that this was one of the main promises on his campaign agenda and that he was able to fulfill it is amazing. Not many politicians do that.

Dancing_Princess18 · 04-02-2010, 10:42 PM

I am going to just state the obvious fact...Americans didn't vote Obama in because they thought he was going to turn the country around but voted him in to prove we aren't raciest and judgemental. I feel that if Obama were fully white then McCain would have won. It was all a race vote to prove something. I can prove that by saying look at the majority of the votes in the south and north. Most of the south voted McCain and most of the north voted Obama. It is still a divided country in that sense though many people want to cover it up. It was just one big race issue and I am not a raciest and I don't believe people should be judged according by skin color or religion but geeze talk about taking it to far? Vote someone in because of their race or religion, wtf? What happened to voting somebody in because you liked what they were offering and i've gotten in many debates over this when he was running and I told many people they'd regret voting him in that he'd do very little and they all laughed at me then disliked me since then because of my opinion and now half of them are complaning and I am like...I told you so. I am not saying everyone who voted for Obama did because of race but I am sure most people did. If you are going to vote someone in...don't because of race or sexism or something like that to prove. Vote somebody in because they will do a good job. One thing i've learned though is that politics are just liars. Promise things to get the vote then once they are in they do alot more damage. I would really like to see these canidates use these millions of dollars to help the American people and help our economy instead of using it for ads and pollute our earth even more. I think if somebody is going to run for office they would get a lot more votes and get noticed by using all the money to advertise to help save some people.

So now it comes to my views on him after this year...I think he is failing to do a lot of what he promised. I don't hear much about him where I live, and if he is going to sit around and do nothing the least he could do is pull a Bush move and make it look like he is doing something!! I disagree with the health care bill and feel that is just one step closer to communism. Every little thing the government does that takes away from us takes us on step closer there, most people are to blind to see it.

lucifer_sam · 04-02-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dancing_Princess18

I am going to just state the obvious fact...Americans didn't vote Obama in because they thought he was going to turn the country around but voted him in to prove we aren't raciest and judgemental. I feel that if Obama were fully white then McCain would have won. It was all a race vote to prove something. I can prove that by saying look at the majority of the votes in the south and north. Most of the south voted McCain and most of the north voted Obama. It is still a divided country in that sense though many people want to cover it up. It was just one big race issue and I am not a raciest and I don't believe people should be judged according by skin color or religion but geeze talk about taking it to far? Vote someone in because of their race or religion, wtf? What happened to voting somebody in because you liked what they were offering and i've gotten in many debates over this when he was running and I told many people they'd regret voting him in that he'd do very little and they all laughed at me then disliked me since then because of my opinion and now half of them are complaning and I am like...I told you so. I am not saying everyone who voted for Obama did because of race but I am sure most people did. If you are going to vote someone in...don't because of race or sexism or something like that to prove. Vote somebody in because they will do a good job. One thing i've learned though is that politics are just liars. Promise things to get the vote then once they are in they do alot more damage. I would really like to see these canidates use these millions of dollars to help the American people and help our economy instead of using it for ads and pollute our earth even more. I think if somebody is going to run for office they would get a lot more votes and get noticed by using all the money to advertise to help save some people.

So now it comes to my views on him after this year...I think he is failing to do a lot of what he promised. I don't hear much about him where I live, and if he is going to sit around and do nothing the least he could do is pull a Bush move and make it look like he is doing something!! I disagree with the health care bill and feel that is just one step closer to communism. Every little thing the government does that takes away from us takes us on step closer there, most people are to blind to see it.

Aaaaaand it's gone.

It's all gone. The dignity in your account didn't do too well, it's all gone.

Neapolitan · 04-03-2010, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Yukon Cornelius

You should cite your quotes... tis tis

I should, but I think the name of the person who said orinigally is lost to antiquity. I personally don't like to talk politics and economic philosophies, it's just an observation. I said it because America is slowly turning Socialist state.

duga · 04-03-2010, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Aaaaaand it's gone.

It's all gone. The dignity in your account didn't do too well, it's all gone.

Yep.

Nothing much else needs to be said.

Inuzuka Skysword · 04-03-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by duga

Yeah, I love how everyone has demonized the word socialism. Just like they did with communism. Guess what, those are simply forms of government...not evil regimes bent on enslaving everyone. Communism didn't work, but it tried. You know what other form of government doesn't work? Capitalism. Just take a look at how many times our economy has collapsed in the past century. Something tells me we could do with some improvement.

I would just like to point out that saying capitalism doesn't work because of what has happened here in America is just as foolish as saying Russia's collapse proves that socialism doesn't work.

duga · 04-03-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Inuzuka Skysword

I would just like to point out that saying capitalism doesn't work because of what has happened here in America is just as foolish as saying Russia's collapse proves that socialism doesn't work.

I could go into more detail if you would like me to, but I'd say a system where economic collapse is inherent is pretty flawed.

And I didn't say socialism doesn't work...nor did I mention Russia at all. I mentioned communism as an example as a tried and failed form of government...but it seems to work for China pretty well albeit in a highly modified way. I think the same could go for capitalism.

Guybrush · 04-03-2010, 02:38 PM

Socialism works really well where I'm at which is also one of the richest countries in the world. From across the pond, the health insurance thingamabob looks like a step in the right direction. For those who can't see it's worth, the value of it will be more appearant when X amount of years have passed.

04-02-2010, 05:16 PM	#11 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	This is the way I look at it...the government wants my money. They take my money. This fact is obvious every time I get a paycheck. There are a lot of people complaining that the lower class is going to be taking our tax money for healthcare and not have to work for it while we have to. Well, you know what? I don't care. I would much rather know that my tax money is going to keeping people alive rather than killing more people in several wars I don't support. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

04-02-2010, 10:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dancing_Princess18 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: United States Posts: 14	I am going to just state the obvious fact...Americans didn't vote Obama in because they thought he was going to turn the country around but voted him in to prove we aren't raciest and judgemental. I feel that if Obama were fully white then McCain would have won. It was all a race vote to prove something. I can prove that by saying look at the majority of the votes in the south and north. Most of the south voted McCain and most of the north voted Obama. It is still a divided country in that sense though many people want to cover it up. It was just one big race issue and I am not a raciest and I don't believe people should be judged according by skin color or religion but geeze talk about taking it to far? Vote someone in because of their race or religion, wtf? What happened to voting somebody in because you liked what they were offering and i've gotten in many debates over this when he was running and I told many people they'd regret voting him in that he'd do very little and they all laughed at me then disliked me since then because of my opinion and now half of them are complaning and I am like...I told you so. I am not saying everyone who voted for Obama did because of race but I am sure most people did. If you are going to vote someone in...don't because of race or sexism or something like that to prove. Vote somebody in because they will do a good job. One thing i've learned though is that politics are just liars. Promise things to get the vote then once they are in they do alot more damage. I would really like to see these canidates use these millions of dollars to help the American people and help our economy instead of using it for ads and pollute our earth even more. I think if somebody is going to run for office they would get a lot more votes and get noticed by using all the money to advertise to help save some people. So now it comes to my views on him after this year...I think he is failing to do a lot of what he promised. I don't hear much about him where I live, and if he is going to sit around and do nothing the least he could do is pull a Bush move and make it look like he is doing something!! I disagree with the health care bill and feel that is just one step closer to communism. Every little thing the government does that takes away from us takes us on step closer there, most people are to blind to see it. __________________ ~Express Yourself. Define Yourself. Music is for everyone.~

04-03-2010, 02:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Socialism works really well where I'm at which is also one of the richest countries in the world. From across the pond, the health insurance thingamabob looks like a step in the right direction. For those who can't see it's worth, the value of it will be more appearant when X amount of years have passed. __________________ Something Completely Different