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boo boo 01-15-2010 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 810810)
I've had a lot of attention from the video I posted and it sickens me how racist some American's are towards the Haitians. Basically it's their own fault because some of them practice voodoo and praise the Devil. That's like saying don't help the German's in a natural disaster because they had Hitler and the Nazi's kill 6 million Jews.
So you deleted it?

Well, you could have just made it so people couldn't make comments.

But at least now you know better, if you want to reach intelligent, thoughtful people, Youtube is the last place you want to be.

Janszoon 01-15-2010 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 810810)
I've had a lot of attention from the video I posted and it sickens me how racist some American's are towards the Haitians. Basically it's their own fault because some of them practice voodoo and praise the Devil. That's like saying don't help the German's in a natural disaster because they had Hitler and the Nazi's kill 6 million Jews.
The weirdest thing here is that while you are outraged by racism in others you actually seem to buy into the bullshit notion of Haitians being satanists, an idea which itself has racist, xenophobic origins.

boo boo 01-15-2010 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by duga (Post 810502)
i really think the US should take the opportunity to actually get haiti up and running in any way they can. after all, the US has been one of the major players in why it has remained one of the most underdeveloped countries in this hemisphere.

has anyone seen this crazy ****ing evangelist that says that this happened to haiti because they made a deal with the devil 200 years ago? he claims this is why the dominican republic is doing so well and haiti keeps getting nailed. ****in loon
Ah, must be good ol' Pat Robertson.

That guy is freaking insane, he's 79 and he claims to be able to leg press 2'000 pounds, which is physically impossible.

boo boo 01-15-2010 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 810907)
The weirdest thing here is that while you are outraged by racism in others you actually seem to buy into the bullshit notion of Haitians being satanists, an idea which itself has racist, xenophobic origins.
Yeah, apparrently a bunch of slaves made some infamous pact with the devil 200 years ago during the Haitian revolution or something like that, I have no clue how much validity this story has but it doesn't really matter, making a pact with the devil during times of desperation doesn't make you a Satanist.

Janszoon 01-15-2010 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 810912)
Yeah, apparrently a bunch of slaves made some infamous pact with the devil 200 years ago during the Haitian revolution or something like that, I have no clue how much validity this story has but it doesn't really matter, making a pact with the devil during times of desperation doesn't make you a Satan worshiper.
Actually, I'll tell you exactly how much validity it has: zero. It's a product of European Christians who couldn't believe that a bunch of slaves were able to lead a successful rebellion against them and came up with the excuse of satanism because they xenophobically viewed African religious practices as "satanic".

LoathsomePete 01-15-2010 09:18 AM
The Red Cross will be seeing some of my pay cheque today. I donated money after the South Pacific Tsunami in 2004, when that Earthquake leveled Bam back in 2003, and after Hurricane Katrina/Rita 2005.

boo boo 01-15-2010 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 810914)
Actually, I'll tell you exactly how much validity it has: zero. It's a product of European Christians who couldn't believe that a bunch of slaves were able to lead a successful rebellion against them and came up with the excuse of satanism because they xenophobically viewed African religious practices as "satanic".
It's just like how some Christians view all secular music as coming straight from Lucifer, because for whatever reason they believe he is the only supernatural being capable of good songwriting.

TheBig3 01-15-2010 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 810923)
It's just like how some Christians view all secular music as coming straight from Lucifer, because for whatever reason they believe he is the only supernatural being capable of good songwriting.
well its more that he's seductive. People like that are always looking at the other and never self-reflecting.

MusicForEveryone 01-15-2010 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by duga (Post 810502)
i really think the US should take the opportunity to actually get haiti up and running in any way they can. after all, the US has been one of the major players in why it has remained one of the most underdeveloped countries in this hemisphere.

has anyone seen this crazy ****ing evangelist that says that this happened to haiti because they made a deal with the devil 200 years ago? he claims this is why the dominican republic is doing so well and haiti keeps getting nailed. ****in loon
Yah. I saw that. Pat Robertson is a nutjob. Right after he said they "made a pact with the devil" he followed up by saying "true story". How can he claim that it's a "true story"? Was he there? *rolls eyes*

And the "funny" thing is, that reporter who interviewed him wasn't even shocked or anything when he said that. She just acted like he just said "apples are good for you" or something. She didn't even ask him anything regarding that, didn't try to refute it, nothing.

lucifer_sam 01-15-2010 11:55 AM
Pat Robertson's notoriety as a spiteful curmudgeon isn't exclusive to secularists, he's long been criticized by even nominally polite Christians. The only other person on the far right that could possibly eclipse his trollish behavior is Rev. Fred Phelps, whose wildly antagonistic behavior has prompted legislation from no fewer than seventeen different states.

As a sympathizer myself I'd urge anyone considering it to send money first, prayer later.


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