rebelgirl linda

Not much I don't believe in. Yeah, I believe in ghosts. Too many people have seen them for me to say they are all crazy. My grandma said she saw my grandpa after he passed.

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CrazyVegn

Ok so while my mind is still awake, instead of being defensive I'm going to explain my side...
First of all I am not afraid of death so for a counterarguer to say believing in them pacifies that does not apply to me.
Anyway the same could be said about nonbelievers, that they are scared of the idea being true. There are times I wish it was all bogus (demons, spirits, ghosts, imprints, etc) but unfortunately I feel there are things. I have only seen a few in my life and I have heard one of them. Of the few, one was the grim reaper... although I will admit to being high during that one.
To my knowledge there haven't been any in my waking sites for over a decade, but last month I did hear what sounded like dozens of voices in a conference in my living room while I was standing in the kitchen. It lasted a few seconds and came from the large aquarium.
There is no TV to be left on, no shows running on the computer, nothing outside to confirm anything like that was going on nearby, and we don't use radios.
Then I got to thinking of my studies of ghosts and remembered they use water to manifest/communicate. With the two ceramic water fountains going 24/7, the aquarium, and the sink running it was the perfect time for them to come through. I don't, however feel watched or like my house is actually haunted. OTOH I do think that if the atmosphere is right they'll use the energy.

Watch these, like I have, and try to explain:


World's Scariest Ghosts Caught on Tape (1 of 3) - YouTube

Necromancer

Ive personally never actually seen anything like a ghost, apparitions or whatever they supposedly appear as. But there has been a few times that I have felt some kind of presence as if it were close to me. For example, My wife and I once lived in a house in the Athens Ohio area, and in the back bedroom where we slept it always felt like someone was standing in the corner watching me or whatever. The point is I did feel a presence in that particular room every night I went to bed. I also got the same feeling outside around the same exact area where the bedroom was located. I kept this to myself for a month or so until one evening before going to bed, I mentioned it to my wife and her mouth dropped wide open and replied that she herself has felt the same way ever since we had moved into to the house.
So my wife (at the time) ask one of her christian friends to come over and see if she felt anything like what we were experiencing. She started to walk around the house to where our bedroom was located, and just before she turned the corner to where the room was located, she made an abrupt turn and returned to her car and said she didn't want to go there. I don't remember what her explanation for not wanting to encounter our supposedly ghost but she never returned to visit us at our house while we continued living there.
In all practicality, I seriously believe that it was some kind of electrical field from power lines, or what have you, instead of an actual presence from the dead.
Even if there are such things as ghost, demons, etc. They really don't bother me at all, I mean even though I felt that weird presence like someone or something was watching me...I still slept like a baby. That kind of shit doesn't worry or bother me at the least. There is an explanation for most everything.

ThePhanastasio

The thing about believing in ghosts is that I am incapable of NOT believing in them at this point. There have been horrifying unexplained events which have been witnessed by another person.

My old home in NC was haunted, a murder-suicide happening a few years before we got there. Weird stuff would happen, like doors opening and closing, doors randomly locking and unlocking, and lots of banging noises in the middle of the night within our duplex which woke my family up constantly.

One day, and I remember this vividly, as does my sister...we were sitting on her bed talking about The Spice Girls. Her television set was roughly ten feet from her bed. Anyway, I proceed to performing a hellaciously off-key rendition of "Spice Up Your Life," when, from the top of her television, a Beanie Baby (yes, I'm dating myself with that admission) flies from atop her television and nails me directly in the face. Nothing had been shaking, there was no earthquake, but we saw with complete clarity this happen to me.

Another: At my mother's house, there's some lady ghost who wanders on the family property we all have seen at some point or another. It's not JUST her house, but it's predominately her house and my aunt and uncle's across the street. Anyway, no one is on my mom's couch, and it just randomly flips over onto its' back. We all watched it happen. There had never been (and has never since been) any issue with the couch staying upright, and once we righted it, we tested it to see if there were any issues that would have caused it to fall over. There were none. Another time, also in my mother's house, she'd just mentioned that she'd seen the ghost, and I said she was dreaming or full of ****, and a bottle of Clorox bleach FLEW from above the washer and dryer and hit me in the chin. I was about five feet away from the washer and dryer when it happened.

Then, there was "Bocket."

When I was little, there was so much "supernatural" activity going on, that my mom was about to just say, "**** it," and move in with her mother until finances got situated enough to find another place. I had a sister close in age, so I wasn't lacking a playmate or anything. My mother had a few terrifying encounters with what she called "shadow ghosts" based on the experiences she'd heard from others of similar phenomena.

And I apparently began freaking the **** out in the middle of the night saying that some dude named Bocket was in my room, and he'd killed someone. All of the activity had been centered around the room with my bed...I was around 4, and was completely terrified.

One day, it seemed like Bocket was okay, and I told my mom. I said he was my friend now, and that he didn't scare me anymore; he'd killed people, but he wasn't going to kill me.

My mom decided that this aspect of her terror was just me inventing an imaginary friend for whatever reason - nevermind that he was a middle-aged murderer from prison.

My mom told me that after all of this, she searched public records at the library and came across an inmate who had died in jail named Bacquet or something, and promptly moved us out of the house. He'd lived in the neighborhood, and HAD killed someone in another state; a drunk driving hit and run. He'd died in jail in 1990, and I'd started seeing my invisible friend in 1991.

We also had the pleasant ghost, who would inexplicably place the newspaper from the day previous on the kitchen table, with certain stories cut out. We lived in a mobile home on family property, so there was no one else with a key, and no one on the property had noticed anyone coming or going, so that was bizarre.

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Afro Blue

i once fell asleep in a cementery (cause i had no where to go and was stranded in another city), that night i saw in a dream that i was surrounded by people, and that they where all standing around me watching me, i was in the same place where i fell asleep but it all seemed diferent, and they where having a party, talking to each other...

when i woke up i felt that i was visited by the wandering souls that are in that place.

Mojo

No, I don't believe in ghosts. I feel I'm too rational a thinker to jump to conclusions or explain certain things as away as "ghosts".

I do however find things that I can't completely explain or comprehend to be interesting. Thats why I tend to find it a little unnecessary when those who can't offer an explanation attack a believer, and when a believer attacks those same people despite not not having anything factual to base their belief on.

I am completely happy to sit on the fence, with no aggressive beliefs, not believe in ghosts, but continue to find any stories regarding things I havent seen, experienced, or can't rationally explain interesting.

There are plenty of things about the mind, the universe, and phenomena that we just dont understand or are not aware of yet, I'm sure. I like to keep my mind open enough to the possibilities that almost anything is, in some way, possible unless there seems to be pretty tight, undisputable scientific reasoning to why something is the way it is, but that doesnt mean I'm going to buy into the concept of ghosts.

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CrazyVegn

^My mind is even MORE open than that bc I think: why wouldn't there be?..

CanwllCorfe

Neat video.

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According to the laws of nature as we know them, ghosts are a phenomenon we can't explain. That doesn't mean ghosts don't exist, but it means that evidence indicates that they don't. So, a critical thinker will think that the burden of proof is on those who would claim ghosts exist and not vice versa. In other words, from a logical point of view, the question should be "how can you prove ghosts exist?" rather than "how can you prove they don't?" ..

Furthermore, as current evidence is against the existence of ghosts, claiming that ghosts exist is a fantastic claim and fantastic claims should require extraordinairy evidence.

This is generally how a critical thinker will approach it and a critical thinker is someone who tries to keep their idea of the universe as close a resemblance to the truth as possible by applied logic and having some quality control of the information they accept as true or not.

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djchameleon

Critical thinkers tend to be very close minded because they rely too heavily on evidence. So of course they will always be skeptical. People that are more open minded are the creative types and those that are right minded.

I'm not saying I disagree with what you are saying because it is all sound and logical. It makes sense. I'm just adding a bit more to it and the reasoning why some people are just open minded and feel they have a spiritual connection to the world and tend to believe in ghosts before having sufficient evidence.

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