Has the world become too PC?

right-track · 11-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Baldylocks.

pourmeanother · 11-27-2009, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

I think the main indication of political correctness gone overboard is the constant changing of certain terms or words to describe things in a constant battle to be 'politically correct.' After working with children with disabilities for a few years, the terms used to refer to the students constantly changed in order to be politically correct and inoffensive.

Yeah, is it still "differently abled"? I remember that term changing often, trying to spin it to be more positive. What was funny to me was that I got called out in training on time for saying "special needs", which, apparently, paints them in a negative light. But then I was taught that groups of them are called "special abilities clusters". Yes, because I'm sure they like being called SACs. Teehee, sack...

Michael Scott: "You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they are acting retarded."

loveissucide · 11-27-2009, 06:44 PM

I don't think political correctness has gone mad.Myself and a mate worked out what racist terms still offend people. The n-word dosn't but the b one does.

Neapolitan · 11-27-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by loveissucide

I don't think political correctness has gone mad. A mate and I worked out what racist terms still offend people. The n-word doesn't but the b one does.

How did you work that one out? Did you and your friend go around calling people racial epithets and write down their reactions - like a couple of name-calling anoraks?

mr dave · 11-27-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

How did you work that one out? Did you and your friend go around calling people racial epithets and write down their reactions - like a couple of name-calling anoraks?

hmmm... feigned offense at possible name calling while name calling.

well played sir... well played indeed.

Seltzer · 11-28-2009, 03:41 AM

Extreme PCness drives me up the wall but thankfully I don't have to tolerate much of it on a daily basis. I have a fair few Asian mates at uni and we all greet each other with a healthy 'herro' and everyone happily gets on with their lives.

I maintain that a glimpse through the smokescreen of many of these self-righteous PC wankers would reveal a lot of racist and prejudiced individuals. Just because they don't put it out in the open for everyone to see doesn't make it ok... and trying to mask it under a smarmy sanctimonious guise is frankly just insulting to the rest of us.

Someone snapped at me recently for using the term 'mentally retarded' and I was like wtf, 'retard' doesn't have to be an insult... the French use 'en retard' to mean late and we use retardation to mean deceleration.

I saw a facebook group the other day and the description really struck a chord:

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New Zealand is a multicultural country. Anyone who has ever visited South Auckland, Howick or been inside a dairy knows this. And yet we can claim to be one of the most racially harmonious societies in the world.

Why is this?

Because we keep our senses of humour. And this includes our ability to be casually racist, and for people of that ethnic group to laugh at it and return in kind. I am Indian and Fijian, and I expect nothing less from my honky and ***** friends to abuse me for this. And they expect the same from me. Then we laugh about it, get a beer and all is well.

And this works. People from less tolerant cultures often report that the kind of things we say in New Zealand to each other would get you beaten and/or killed in their countries. Yet New Zealand has one of the lowest rates of hate crime in the Western world.

Why? It's because of our ability to laugh at each other, and ourselves, without causing harm. This is a great thing about this country and I for one want to keep it that way.

However, in recent times, the PC-wanker brigade are putting this facet of Kiwi life under threat, with events like the removal of a mildly controversial Hell Pizza billboard among others.

What these bleeding heart do-gooders don't realise is that in taking away our ability to poke fun at other races, we are not breeding a less racist society, we are building a more racially tense society which will only divide us, not unite us. Do we want to turn out like America, where race becomes a defining factor in every facet of our everyday life rather than an afterthought like it is for most people?

Sure, New Zealand's not perfect. But compared to other countries, it's pretty ****in' good. And so I, along with my white, Maori, Asian, Pacific Islander, African and everyone else I've missed brothers and sisters stand up and untie in the cause of smart arse casual middle class racism!

The Monkey · 12-02-2009, 11:30 AM

It has never been politically incorrect. In fact, some of the behaviour in TV in terms of sex, violence and profanity they would never have gotten away with in the 50s and 60s. Or in terms of music, listen to the lyrics of any family-friendly pop artist in the 50s and 60s and compare it to much of today's music. Hell, even Lennon harmless comment about being bigger that Jesus caused a huge ****storm.

People seriously need to stop thinking that the world was better in the past. It wasn't.

Besides, I'm fed up with the entire concept. Criticizing political correctness is so common nowadays that it's almost politically incorrect not to do it. Even the nazis whine about it.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 12-07-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey

It has never been politically incorrect. In fact, some of the behaviour in TV in terms of sex, violence and profanity they would never have gotten away with in the 50s and 60s. Or in terms of music, listen to the lyrics of any family-friendly pop artist in the 50s and 60s and compare it to much of today's music. Hell, even Lennon harmless comment about being bigger that Jesus caused a huge ****storm.

People seriously need to stop thinking that the world was better in the past. It wasn't.

Besides, I'm fed up with the entire concept. Criticizing political correctness is so common nowadays that it's almost politically incorrect not to do it. Even the nazis whine about it.

Some people do prefer the thinking of old, such as ***s are immoral, porn is immoral etc. Nowdays it's all just accepted, it's part of the norm, but is this what we want to be passing onto our children? That doing anything and everything is okay? Is Paris Hilton the new Elvis?

The Monkey · 12-07-2009, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Some people do prefer the thinking of old, such as ***s are immoral, porn is immoral etc. Nowdays it's all just accepted, it's part of the norm, but is this what we want to be passing onto our children? That doing anything and everything is okay? Is Paris Hilton the new Elvis?

So you perceive that "immorality" has been normalized, while other feel that the world is too political correct. Aren't these two contradictory ideas? Doesn't this indicate that they're very different trends in society depending on the observer?

In any case, it seems strange to me that it (at least in America, as far as I've noted) seems to be the conservatives that are whining about political correctness, then in the form of no school prayers and actions on global warming. The conservatives are hiding under the concept of opposition to political correctness to spout any homophobic, misogynistic, islamophobic bullshit they please and not expect to be criticized for it.

Captain Awesome · 12-07-2009, 05:39 AM

yes, the world (the western world at least) has definitley became too pc.

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Captain Awesome On A Rampage Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 317	yes, the world (the western world at least) has definitley became too pc. __________________ "If we're all merely players in a play on this great stage, the problem is the script writers ain't on the same page, I echo through the mountain when I'm singing in the air, from my lab a lad with lavish lyrics living in his lair." "Wake up and listen, hear what's not for the public's ears Pinocchio poets played by profiting puppeteers"

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12-02-2009, 11:30 AM	#27 (permalink)
The Monkey Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 803	It has never been politically incorrect. In fact, some of the behaviour in TV in terms of sex, violence and profanity they would never have gotten away with in the 50s and 60s. Or in terms of music, listen to the lyrics of any family-friendly pop artist in the 50s and 60s and compare it to much of today's music. Hell, even Lennon harmless comment about being bigger that Jesus caused a huge ****storm. People seriously need to stop thinking that the world was better in the past. It wasn't. Besides, I'm fed up with the entire concept. Criticizing political correctness is so common nowadays that it's almost politically incorrect not to do it. Even the nazis whine about it.