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View Poll Results: What religion do you follow?
Christianity 38 20.32%
Buddhism 3 1.60%
Hinduism 1 0.53%
Islam 2 1.07%
Judaism 4 2.14%
Wiccanism 1 0.53%
Other established religion (feel free to post about it) 6 3.21%
Self-defined 25 13.37%
Don't follow any religion & don't believe in deities (atheist) 68 36.36%
Not Sure, undecided, don't know or don't care 39 20.86%
Sikhism 0 0%
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:00 PM   #391 (permalink)
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Old 11-02-2015, 01:00 PM   #392 (permalink)
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:29 PM   #393 (permalink)
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I feel like atheism has gotten a bad name lately. it's like, i feel that most atheists i've met just thinks that "oh, no, there is no god, because that is stupid, how can there be a god when bla bla bla"

I feel like they are just like the religions they are against, who says "no, there IS a god, you are wrong, science just got os so far bla bla bla".

I do not want to associate myself with atheists just because of that. There may just as well be a god, or gods, or whatever, i just need proof. until then, i rely on science. If i am one day proven wrong, then i will accept that, and go on with my life. All i'm asking i scientific proof that there is a divine being who created us. until that proof pops up, i will continue to rely on science. I am one of those who ask "Why?", and if the answer is "it says so in the book" i just nod and wave.

I also don't want to be associated with sceptics, as most of the "sceptics" i've met basically says the same as atheists, they just don't want to be seen as atheists themselves.

So, long story short; i need proof. andso far, science has the most promising research so far.
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Old 11-14-2015, 10:54 PM   #394 (permalink)
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I feel like atheism has gotten a bad name lately. it's like, i feel that most atheists i've met just thinks that "oh, no, there is no god, because that is stupid, how can there be a god when bla bla bla"

I feel like they are just like the religions they are against, who says "no, there IS a god, you are wrong, science just got os so far bla bla bla".

I do not want to associate myself with atheists just because of that. There may just as well be a god, or gods, or whatever, i just need proof. until then, i rely on science. If i am one day proven wrong, then i will accept that, and go on with my life. All i'm asking i scientific proof that there is a divine being who created us. until that proof pops up, i will continue to rely on science. I am one of those who ask "Why?", and if the answer is "it says so in the book" i just nod and wave.

I also don't want to be associated with sceptics, as most of the "sceptics" i've met basically says the same as atheists, they just don't want to be seen as atheists themselves.

So, long story short; i need proof. andso far, science has the most promising research so far.
I'm an atheist. I don't preach about it though. Except for this post.
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I'm an atheist. I don't preach about it though. Except for this post.
You just said the other day that you don't like to get labeled as an atheist.
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Old 11-15-2015, 04:38 AM   #397 (permalink)
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I feel like atheism has gotten a bad name lately. it's like, i feel that most atheists i've met just thinks that "oh, no, there is no god, because that is stupid, how can there be a god when bla bla bla"

I feel like they are just like the religions they are against, who says "no, there IS a god, you are wrong, science just got os so far bla bla bla".

I do not want to associate myself with atheists just because of that. There may just as well be a god, or gods, or whatever, i just need proof. until then, i rely on science. If i am one day proven wrong, then i will accept that, and go on with my life. All i'm asking i scientific proof that there is a divine being who created us. until that proof pops up, i will continue to rely on science. I am one of those who ask "Why?", and if the answer is "it says so in the book" i just nod and wave.

I also don't want to be associated with sceptics, as most of the "sceptics" i've met basically says the same as atheists, they just don't want to be seen as atheists themselves.

So, long story short; i need proof. andso far, science has the most promising research so far.
I think the extent that militant atheists go to is largely because a lot of problems in the world are caused by religion. If that's the case, and religion is not an accurate portrayal of reality, then it's worth opposing. Especially considering the fact that in plenty of places, irreligiosity is frowned on or actively discriminated against, and it's often the case that even some matters of the law rely on ancient books that are not apparently true or apparently not true.

I try to not be a dick about it, and it bugs me when people are, but I'm totally willing to have the debate. But, then, I'm willing to debate most topics without having my feelings hurt.
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I think the extent that militant atheists go to is largely because a lot of problems in the world are caused by religion. If that's the case, and religion is not an accurate portrayal of reality, then it's worth opposing. Especially considering the fact that in plenty of places, irreligiosity is frowned on or actively discriminated against, and it's often the case that even some matters of the law rely on ancient books that are not apparently true or apparently not true.

I try to not be a dick about it, and it bugs me when people are, but I'm totally willing to have the debate. But, then, I'm willing to debate most topics without having my feelings hurt.
i disagree my friend

for the simple reason that you will never convince the vast bulk of religious people to be rational

and even most atheists are irrational and only parrot talking points fed to them by the intelligentsia

added to the fact that religious people have a significant emotional investment in their religion, to the extent that it has shaped our practices, rituals, sense of art and beauty etc and they simply aren't going to be moved from that rock

so all you'll do by being a militant atheist is create yet another unnecessary schism in the human race, by stirring up resentment from the other side

like really who is helped by taking a nativity scene down? i'm an atheist, i live in the south, you think i give a **** that the townhall has a nativity scene? give me a break. what motivates people to put up that nativity scene is honoring a tradition and celebrating a holiday. what motivates the atheist alliance from freedom foundation or whateverthe**** to try to take it down is "HEY! THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. I'M HERE TOO. SOMEBODY NOTICE ME."

nah sit down and shut up you ratchet looking atheist bitch
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Old 11-15-2015, 02:49 PM   #399 (permalink)
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The extremist level of your negativity astounds me. You are well versed, that's for sure. But your spew still stinks like s*it.
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i'm saying we don't need to systematically dismantle religion, and that it's probably counter productive to try to do so.... yet i'm the negative one cause i said it in a blunt way
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