Are you religious?

Dr.Seussicide · 10-11-2009, 11:39 AM

Wow, these last few posts confused the hell out of me. Catholics aren't Christian anymore? What? I think you guys are letting your subjectivity get in the way of facts. Christianity is a religion... obviously. Other religions are Islam, Judaism and Hinduism. Much like Christianity, Hinduism also has subsets called denominations.

Catholicism is very much a subset/denomination of Christianity. It is a branch of Christianity. It is not it's own religion but a subset of it.

anticipation · 10-11-2009, 11:41 AM

I won't argue with you anymore because it's basically irrelevant what a bunch of superstitious mystics called themselves, but I will say that this chart is hilarious, just based on the inclusion of anabaptists as a "major branch". It's really quite funny.

**Janszoon** · 10-11-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide

Wow, these last few posts confused the hell out of me. Catholics aren't Christian anymore? What? I think you guys are letting your subjectivity get in the way of facts. Christianity is a religion... obviously. Other religions are Islam, Judaism and Hinduism. Much like Christianity, Hinduism also has subsets called denominations.

Catholicism is very much a subset/denomination of Christianity. It is a branch of Christianity. It is not it's own religion but a subset of it.

Thank you.

**Janszoon** · 10-11-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

I won't argue with you anymore because it's basically irrelevant what a bunch of superstitious mystics called themselves, but I will say that this chart is hilarious, just based on the inclusion of anabaptists as a "major branch". It's really quite funny.

The chart is illustrating some major splits that have occurred since the beginning of the religion and I doubt it's intended to be all-inclusive, it's just demonstrating how the religion has branched over time. I would've thought that would be obvious just by looking at it.

Guybrush · 10-11-2009, 12:07 PM

Well, it's my thread and my poll and if any catholics want to answer it, then they should choose the "christian" option.

anticipation · 10-11-2009, 12:09 PM

So Christianity is a religion whose only major requirement for demoniational inclusion is that you have to believed Jesus Christ is the model for morality and the bible is important? I think Christianity is just a word used to describe people who believe in Christ, while the major denominations are the sub-sects of Protestantism. I never said Catholicism wasn't Christianity, I'm saying that Catholicism is a religion and that it just happens to be a Christian religion. It's nearly impossible to assign very many tenets or beliefs to "Christianity" as a religion without favoring certain denominational sects whose interpretations on the bible have differed since the beginnings of monotheism.

Dr.Seussicide · 10-11-2009, 12:19 PM

This site should help you out

Christianity Outline Flowchart

anticipation · 10-11-2009, 12:23 PM

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This site should help you out

Christianity Outline Flowchart

how? i'm looking for a definition of the broad christian religion, not a guide to its hundreds of denominations. find one and then you'll be some help to me.

Dr.Seussicide · 10-11-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

how? i'm looking for a definition of the broad christian religion, not a guide to its hundreds of denominations. find one and then you'll be some help to me.

Christian religion definition of Christian religion in the Free Online Encyclopedia.

I believe you're speaking of the part headlined "Central Beliefs"

**Janszoon** · 10-11-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

So Christianity is a religion whose only major requirement for demoniational inclusion is that you have to believed Jesus Christ is the model for morality and the bible is important?

Add to that believing that Jesus was the Messiah and I think you've got it.

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I think Christianity is just a word used to describe people who believe in Christ, while the major denominations are the sub-sects of Protestantism. I never said Catholicism wasn't Christianity, I'm saying that Catholicism is a religion and that it just happens to be a Christian religion.

Considering that the Eastern Orthodox Church is the second biggest Christian denomination after the Catholics, you really have your work cut out for you convincing me that the major Christian denominations are all "sub-sects" of Protestantism.

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It's nearly impossible to assign very many tenets or beliefs to "Christianity" as a religion without favoring certain denominational sects whose interpretations on the bible have differed since the beginnings of monotheism.

Welcome the the world of religion. You'll find you run into the same problem with other religions like Islam and Buddhism as well. That doesn't mean their different subsets are different religions. If you want a really convoluted one, trying reading up on Hinduism. Now that's one you'd have a pretty easy time making the "it's not one religion it's many" argument about.

By the way, there's a pretty big irony here with you expressing a concern about "favoring certain denominational sects" while expressing the very Protestant viewpoint that Catholicism is a separate religion from the rest of Christianity.

View Poll Results: What religion do you follow?
Christianity	38	20.32%
Buddhism	3	1.60%
Hinduism	1	0.53%
Islam	2	1.07%
Judaism	4	2.14%
Wiccanism	1	0.53%
Other established religion (feel free to post about it)	6	3.21%
Self-defined	25	13.37%
Don't follow any religion & don't believe in deities (atheist)	68	36.36%
Not Sure, undecided, don't know or don't care	39	20.86%
Sikhism	0	0%
Voters: 187. You may not vote on this poll

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Dr.Seussicide FakingSuicideForApplause Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I live in a van down by the river Posts: 1,365	Wow, these last few posts confused the hell out of me. Catholics aren't Christian anymore? What? I think you guys are letting your subjectivity get in the way of facts. Christianity is a religion... obviously. Other religions are Islam, Judaism and Hinduism. Much like Christianity, Hinduism also has subsets called denominations. Catholicism is very much a subset/denomination of Christianity. It is a branch of Christianity. It is not it's own religion but a subset of it. __________________ I'll stay if I ever could, and pick up your pieces babe, because there's never a perfect day. Don't fret, baby, we're simply growing And my darling, I wouldn't mind to die like this.

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10-11-2009, 12:19 PM	#127 (permalink)
Dr.Seussicide FakingSuicideForApplause Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I live in a van down by the river Posts: 1,365	This site should help you out Christianity Outline Flowchart __________________ I'll stay if I ever could, and pick up your pieces babe, because there's never a perfect day. Don't fret, baby, we're simply growing And my darling, I wouldn't mind to die like this.

10-11-2009, 11:41 AM	#122 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	I won't argue with you anymore because it's basically irrelevant what a bunch of superstitious mystics called themselves, but I will say that this chart is hilarious, just based on the inclusion of anabaptists as a "major branch". It's really quite funny.

10-11-2009, 12:09 PM	#126 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	So Christianity is a religion whose only major requirement for demoniational inclusion is that you have to believed Jesus Christ is the model for morality and the bible is important? I think Christianity is just a word used to describe people who believe in Christ, while the major denominations are the sub-sects of Protestantism. I never said Catholicism wasn't Christianity, I'm saying that Catholicism is a religion and that it just happens to be a Christian religion. It's nearly impossible to assign very many tenets or beliefs to "Christianity" as a religion without favoring certain denominational sects whose interpretations on the bible have differed since the beginnings of monotheism.