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boo boo 10-01-2009 08:19 AM

Nostradamus
 
Ah yes, Nostradamus. The world's most reknown writer of mad libs.

I will say, the guy was certainly pretty bright, I think he was clever enough to make all these predictions that are so vague that any idiot can apply it to anything.

And you gotta love how a prophecy is only discovered "after" the fact.

The way people decode prophecies like it's a game of scrabble is just hilarious. Here's a modern example.

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Obama = Mabus the third antichrist

Obama (phonetically pronounced “ouBama”) = Ubama = maabu = Mabu, etc. Add then the one missing letter by replacing the redundant “a” and you get Mabu(s).
Can't you do this with virtually anyone?

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I was stunned to see on barackobama.com an article titled "Mabus to advise Obama on Middle East issues" (see). I took note that Obama's birthday is August 4, 1961 or 8-4-61. Add six months to get 2-4-62, the birthday Nostradamus gives the third antichrist. Could that the the thrid six in 6-6-6?
:laughing:

What? One, I didn't know he could give specific dates like that and two, that's WAY off, 6 months isn't just a minor oversight especially if he took the time to give an exact date.

Seriously, so he's born 6 months before the antichrist is to be born, that must make him the antichrist? Makes sense to me.

If you really believe this guy was a prophet, you can't just take a BS prophecy and "correct" it by changing it completely. When the guy actually gives exact dates and not a goddamn thing happens you can't just say "well he got the date wrong."

Got the date wrong? Are you kidding me? Some f*cking prophet that is.

And the fact that people still make the 666 connections even though it's been proven that the real number is 616 shows just how bogus all this crap is.

So? What is your opinion on the guy? Was he just an idiot that got lucky or was he a super genius who came up with a great way to pull a fast scam on superstitious idiots even centuries after his death. I'm pretty much convinced it's the latter.

Darkest Hours is gonna luuuuuuuuv this.

Darkest Hour 10-01-2009 11:26 PM

There is nothing interesting about him, or his bogus prophecies. Research something else, this dude is a waste of time.

Guybrush 10-02-2009 12:16 AM

People are naturally good at associations and finding patterns. Show them some randomly placed dots and they might see a dolphin or a bear.

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/objects...olphin_500.jpg

I think this is a part of human nature that it can pay to be aware of. I see sperm myself.

I believe Nostradamus predictions and their accuracy to be a result of the same thing. Clearly, this paranoid from Boo's post doesn't know when to stop relating or associating things ..

I hope I'm not offending any americans, but almost always when I see paranoid posts - whether it's about alien cover-ups, the government being lizard men, the flu vaccine being a mass killing in disguise and so on, they're speculations made by americans. I can think of two immediate reasons why that might be, the first that there are simply many americans in the world so they show up more frequently. The other reason could be that in America, paranoids make up for a larger contribution to the population than in your average european nation.

A general trend I see is that it's almost always accompanied by a large degree of mistrust towards the government (Obama being the antichrist is a rather good example) and that could perhaps in part be explained simply by the size of the nation. What do you guys think? Are any of these ideas or assumptions true?

Dr_Rez 10-02-2009 02:51 AM

Boo Boo have you read or heard about the newest Nostradamus? There is a man who many follow now that apparently has these same "powers".

I will try and find a link for you.

edit: I can not find the good one I had read so this will have to do for now. Bruce Bueno de Mesquita - Modern Nostradamus | Lost Martian

boo boo 10-02-2009 12:08 PM

There is this one nostradamus prediction people are worked up about now, Nostradamus refered to the supposed third antichrist as Mabus, and Obama has a senior adviser on middle east relations named Ray Mabus. Oooooooooooooooooh.

People seemed to catch on to that early and predicted that he would be Obama's candidate for vice president, then Obama gets shot and Mabus becomes evil overlord or something. Didn't turn out that way of course. So they have to make up another convoluted scenario now.

Dosen't Nostradamus only use codenames anyway? Or rather names people have to play scrabble with to get any results? So someone actually fitting his name description dead on is just a coincidence obviously and not consistant with his other predictions. That's the thing, there's no consistancy. Preople either interpret his predictions as being dead on perfect descriptions or so cryptic that they have to do f*cking math equations. It makes no damn sense.

According to Nostradamus there are to be 3 antichrists and all his followers think the first one was Napaleon. Really? Napoleon? There were way worst motherf*ckers than that guy, you'd think the son of Satan would be a bit more successful, and preferably not a midget.

boo boo 10-02-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 745379)
I hope I'm not offending any americans, but almost always when I see paranoid posts - whether it's about alien cover-ups, the government being lizard men, the flu vaccine being a mass killing in disguise and so on, they're speculations made by americans. I can think of two immediate reasons why that might be, the first that there are simply many americans in the world so they show up more frequently. The other reason could be that in America, paranoids make up for a larger contribution to the population than in your average european nation.

A general trend I see is that it's almost always accompanied by a large degree of mistrust towards the government (Obama being the antichrist is a rather good example) and that could perhaps in part be explained simply by the size of the nation. What do you guys think? Are any of these ideas or assumptions true?

Well it does seem to be mostly an American thing but I have stumbled upon a few European conspiracy nut sites that talk about how the EU will be the end of us all.

Dr.Seussicide 10-02-2009 05:10 PM

Nostradamus is blah blah blah whatever, who gives a flying fuck

But this guy right here... He's the real deal:

Saint Malachy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check out on his page: Prophecy of the Popes

boo boo 10-02-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Seussicide (Post 745585)
Nostradamus is blah blah blah whatever, who gives a flying fuck

But this guy right here... He's the real deal:

Saint Malachy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Check out on his page: Prophecy of the Popes

Pffft. Those "prophecie's" are only fufilled because the catholic church tries to make sure that they are, why? Because they believe in that stupid sh*t.

Dr.Seussicide 10-02-2009 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 745587)
Pffft. Those "prophecie's" are only fufilled because the catholic church tries to make sure that they are, why? Because they believe in that stupid sh*t.

Stop being cynical man

bardonodude 10-07-2009 11:59 AM

im tired of everyone saying that hister is supposed to be the same as hitler.

bardonodude 10-08-2009 01:12 PM

he supposedly had affairs with marie antouinette as well as queen elizabeth

Kamikazi Kat 10-11-2009 10:25 PM

All of this prophecy and 2012 stuff is something I can usually just sit back and laugh at, but now its getting on my nerves because it's actually affecting me by ruining the History channel for me. All I've been seeing lately is specials on the antichrist, Nostradamus and 2012, and now the channel even has an entire show based on this crap, "The Nostradamus Effect." My sense of humor can't take it anymore. Hearing the channel constantly spew out crap regarding vague prophecies about fire, destruction and starvation and then having some history guy go "That stuff is happening right now, Nostradamus predicted it," just doesn't make me laugh anymore. This is no longer just an isolated burst of idiotic conspiracy theory, its become much, much more terrible.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 10-11-2009 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bardonodude (Post 749028)
he supposedly had affairs with marie antouinette as well as queen elizabeth

http://image.blingee.com/images17/co..._1638562.gif?4

yea thats my boi

boo boo 10-11-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamikazi Kat (Post 750638)
All of this prophecy and 2012 stuff is something I can usually just sit back and laugh at, but now its getting on my nerves because it's actually affecting me by ruining the History channel for me. All I've been seeing lately is specials on the antichrist, Nostradamus and 2012, and now the channel even has an entire show based on this crap, "The Nostradamus Effect." My sense of humor can't take it anymore. Hearing the channel constantly spew out crap regarding vague prophecies about fire, destruction and starvation and then having some history guy go "That stuff is happening right now, Nostradamus predicted it," just doesn't make me laugh anymore. This is no longer just an isolated burst of idiotic conspiracy theory, its become much, much more terrible.

Yeah, I like to laugh at it but at the end of the day it's incredibly disturbing the amount of people who not only believe in the end of the world, but the fact that so many people desperately want it to happen.

That for me is more terrifying than anything the Bible or Nostradamus could diss out.

I think History Channel has gone to crap way before this whole Nostradamus trend though, for a while it was nothing but Hitler and UFOs, and at least Hitler actually has something to do with history.

At this point the History Channel is about on the equal educational level of say, Nickelodeon.

No wait, I take that back. I've learned more about marine biology from watching episodes of Spongebob Squarepants than I have learned about History from anything currently on that self parody of a network. :laughing:

Darkest Hour 10-11-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamikazi Kat (Post 750638)
All of this prophecy and 2012 stuff is something I can usually just sit back and laugh at, but now its getting on my nerves because it's actually affecting me by ruining the History channel for me. All I've been seeing lately is specials on the antichrist, Nostradamus and 2012, and now the channel even has an entire show based on this crap, "The Nostradamus Effect." My sense of humor can't take it anymore. Hearing the channel constantly spew out crap regarding vague prophecies about fire, destruction and starvation and then having some history guy go "That stuff is happening right now, Nostradamus predicted it," just doesn't make me laugh anymore. This is no longer just an isolated burst of idiotic conspiracy theory, its become much, much more terrible.

You see, 99.9% of the history channel shows are inaccurate and just there for entertainment. If you want credible theories on 2012 or anything else you should look elsewhere. History Channel wants ratings, so anything that ties into this whole 2012 ordeal will be what they will be showing until it is over and done with.

boo boo 10-11-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 750663)
You see, 99.9% of the history channel shows are inaccurate and just there for entertainment. If you want credible theories on 2012 or anything else you should look elsewhere. History Channel wants ratings, so anything that ties into this whole 2012 ordeal will be what they will be showing until it is over and done with.

Such as your assh*le.

Neapolitan 10-12-2009 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 750663)
You see, 99.9% of the history channel shows are inaccurate and just there for entertainment. If you want credible theories on 2012 or anything else you should look elsewhere. History Channel wants ratings, so anything that ties into this whole 2012 ordeal will be what they will be showing until it is over and done with.

Beside "The Nostradamus Effect" the History Channel have other shows like 10 Ways How to Destroy the Earth. What senario I thouhgt that could really happen is the "Strange Matter" used to destroy [or transformed] the Earth. They said if you dropped some "Strange Matter" on top of the Empire State Building it would slowly turn into "Strange Matter." Then eventually the whole building would turn into "Strange Matter" etc etc Even Mount Rushmore and slowly the whole Earth. "Strange Matter" is what is foun in a Neutron Star. Well what I find a little alarming is that The Large Hadron Collider is said to produce Miniture Black Holes. Well if the LHC can create Miniture Black Holes then it can create Miniature Neutron Stars or "Strange Matter." I don't think the Scientist want to create Miniature Black Holes I think they are looking for a way to create "Strange Matter" with the LHC. Thus in a way The Large Hadron Collider is a Doomsday Machine like the one in Doctor Strangelove.


Guybrush 10-12-2009 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 750701)
Beside "The Nostradamus Effect" the History Channel have other shows like 10 Ways How to Destroy the Earth. What senario I thouhgt that could really happen is the "Strange Matter" used to destroy [or transformed] the Earth. They said if you dropped some "Strange Matter" on top of the Empire State Building it would slowly turn into "Strange Matter." Then eventually the whole building would turn into "Strange Matter" etc etc Even Mount Rushmore and slowly the whole Earth. "Strange Matter" is what is foun in a Neutron Star. Well what I find a little alarming is that The Large Hadron Collider is said to produce Miniture Black Holes. Well if the LHC can create Miniture Black Holes then it can create Miniature Neutron Stars or "Strange Matter." I don't think the Scientist want to create Miniature Black Holes I think they are looking for a way to create "Strange Matter" with the LHC. Thus in a way The Large Hadron Collider is a Doomsday Machine like the one in Doctor Strangelove.

The LHC isn't doing anything that isn't already happening millions of times every day. Cosmic rays are colliding at higher speeds and more energy than they do in the LHC and the universe as we know it is still around. They've taken security seriously and done a lot of risk asessment, but as far as I know, there is none. It's just recreating something that already takes place in nature - just under controlled laboratory conditions.

Regarding strangelets (strange matter), they don't believe these can be produced by the LHC. If they should be however, they would turn into regular matter so quickly - within a thousand millionth of a second - that they wouldn't have time to interact with other matter first.

The main concern for common people regarding the LHC is miniature black holes. The reason is simply because when you fire particles (protons) at eachother with that kind of speed and energy, they could form a superdense clump when they hit eachother, but these are predicted to not be produced. If they are produced, they are predicted to evaporate quickly - lose their matter by radiation. If somehow they stick around, they are still predicted to be way too small to produce any macroscopic effects in our universe's lifetime. If the LHC can produce miniature black holes, then in theory such black holes should be created all the time out there where cosmic radiation flies around and crashes .. and we're still here.

If the LHC really was a doomsday machine, then probably the whole of the scientific community would be in on it. I haven't been let in on any big secrets there yet, so I don't believe that. :p:

boo boo 10-12-2009 07:43 AM

So religious doomsday sayers rely on 3 big sources to back up their claims. The Bible, Nostradomus and Western culture's buttf*cked understanding of Mayan astrology.

The last two will eventually be proven wrong, but the bible? Man, if radical Christians are still around in a hundred thousand years, they'll spend most of that time preaching about the end times.

They never take no for an answer, every time they pick a date that turns out to be full of sh*t, it dosen't phase them at all. They always have a back up date for our inevitable destruction no matter how many times they're proven wrong which ironically means they'll keep pulling doomsday dates out of their asses until mankind actually does ceast to exist. :laughing:

And that'l probably happen before anyone has a chance to say "I told you so".

Neapolitan 10-12-2009 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 750715)
The LHC isn't doing anything that isn't already happening millions of times every day. Cosmic rays are colliding at higher speeds and more energy than they do in the LHC and the universe as we know it is still around. They've taken security seriously and done a lot of risk asessment, but as far as I know, there is none. It's just recreating something that already takes place in nature - just under controlled laboratory conditions.

You can't call an atom bomb safe because you can find natural occuring radioactive material in the ground you walk on. I'm sure Madame Curie could never imagine the devastation of an atomic bomb.

boo boo 10-13-2009 01:20 AM

http://thebeautybrains.com/wp-conten...e-fly-1958.jpg

WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER PLAYED GOD!

Guybrush 10-13-2009 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 751497)
You can't call an atom bomb safe because you can find natural occuring radioactive material in the ground you walk on. I'm sure Madame Curie could never imagine the devastation of an atomic bomb.

Well, that's a dumb analogy. Particles colliding is particles colliding - this happens outside of controlled lab conditions all the time. However, radiation does not equal the explosion from an atom bomb. :rolleyes:

.. And atom bombs do not go off all the time in nature.

Dr_Rez 10-13-2009 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden (Post 751525)
Well, that's a dumb analogy. Particles colliding is particles colliding - this happens outside of controlled lab conditions all the time. However, radiation does not equal the explosion from an atom bomb. :rolleyes:

.. And atom bombs do not go off all the time in nature.

Sure they do. One went of here in Pittsburgh. Or maybe that was the g20?

bardonodude 10-19-2009 02:12 PM

remember when three mile island exploded and ripped a whole in the earth to china?

someonecompletelyrandom 10-19-2009 02:25 PM

Haha BooBoo I am so glad you mentioned this! People tried to do the same Mabus thing with George W. Bush by flipping his name upside down (why?) using the W as an M and adding an A (why?) then dropping the "redundent" H (why is is redundent?). And I swear people were taking it seriously! The History Channel did a whole serious of specials on that crap!

boo boo 10-19-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan (Post 755029)
Haha BooBoo I am so glad you mentioned this! People tried to do the same Mabus thing with George W. Bush by flipping his name upside down (why?) using the W as an M and adding an A (why?) then dropping the "redundent" H (why is is redundent?). And I swear people were taking it seriously! The History Channel did a whole serious of specials on that crap!

Seriously, this is how nutjobs make excuses for failed prophecies.

"Oh it's real, you just gotta change the words around a little"

What the hell? Are these prophecies or are they f*cking games of word jumble? Because a lot of people seem to treat it like the latter.

But heres a helpful tip, word jumble dosen't allow you to add just whatever f*cking letters you feel like adding. Assh*les.

With all the vague and cryptic stuff that is Nostradamus and the bible code, you could decode them and find a recipe for chicken and rice casserole, it's f*cking bullsh*t.


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