Is it just me, or does heaven sound like a really horrible place?

Guybrush · 11-06-2009, 01:48 AM

It's a bit weird to have someone almighty try and enforce morality like thou shalt not kill and then they don't really follow it themselves.

Furthermore, most of us would say "it may be your pet, but I don't think it's right to make it suffer". We make movies like Blade Runner and AI that question the morality regarding making something that thinks it has a life and then treat it as an object which we can own.

Are we more moralistic than God?

loveissucide · 11-06-2009, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by toretorden

It's a bit weird to have someone almighty try and enforce morality like thou shalt not kill and then they don't really follow it themselves.

The laws created by Abraham were to found a stable civilisation, and whether or not God exists is irrelevant to that matter.The means of enforcing the law was to invoke religion, and capitalise on people's fear of the afterlife in order to impose control.

Guybrush · 11-06-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by loveissucide

The laws created by Abraham were to found a stable civilisation, and whether or not God exists is irrelevant to that matter.The means of enforcing the law was to invoke religion, and capitalise on people's fear of the afterlife in order to impose control.

I don't think you understand. I was pointing out a possible paradox for people who believe that God enforces morality of the kind "thou shalt not kill".

~~TumorAttitude~~ · 11-22-2009, 09:16 PM

Oh my god, it looks like a giant cage.

When I was a lil' churchie, I thought Heaven and Hell were different for everyone. But I guess if we're all programmed to lose our free will and lick God's ass for all of eternity, what I like vs. what you like won't be a problem.

Zaqarbal · 01-08-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

I mean think about it, the more you ask a Christian what heaven will be like, the more repulsive the very idea becomes.

First there's the obvious stuff, the belief that there is no sex in heaven, or even gender, we will all have christ like bodies, whatever that means. I guess we all turn into mini Jesus's or something. We probably won't even be able to tell each other apart but thankfully god will make us too stupid to care because that's the great kinda guy he is.

And the reason there is no marriage in heaven is because we will have no time to mantain a relationship other than with god who we will worship 24/7 for all eternity because his ego requires it. Hooray.

I agree. If Paradise consists in playing the harp surrounded by winged eunuchs, then I prefer Satan's dodecaphonic Hell.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 01-08-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TumorAttitude

Oh my god, it looks like a giant cage.

A little research into biblical symbolism, ecspecially in the most symbolic book, goes a long way.

Guybrush · 01-09-2010, 05:52 AM

Call me crazy, but I'd take eternal joy in that oversized gamecube over eternal suffering in hell any day, but that's me. If only I believed, I'm sure I would make a good christian.

right-track · 01-09-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan;

I think you would make a good Christian. You have some misconceptions about the faith, but who doesn't, though I have to say some of the things you say come close to Christian thinking.

^ Have you any idea how arrogant that comment appears?

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 01-09-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN CAVEMAN

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christians are stupid etc etc, real original thread

Honestly, why do people around here get such a thrill for attacking religion? It's obviously a personal choice that everybody makes individually and certainly nobody is forcing Christianity on anybody these days, ecspecially not in the U.S...

boo boo · 01-09-2010, 11:17 PM

I'm not attacking religion, just some people's concept of heaven.

You're f*cking insane if you think religion of all things is immune to criticism. Just because a lot of people do it is a terrible excuse not to point out a problem I have with it personally.

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	It's a bit weird to have someone almighty try and enforce morality like thou shalt not kill and then they don't really follow it themselves. Furthermore, most of us would say "it may be your pet, but I don't think it's right to make it suffer". We make movies like Blade Runner and AI that question the morality regarding making something that thinks it has a life and then treat it as an object which we can own. Are we more moralistic than God? __________________ Something Completely Different

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Call me crazy, but I'd take eternal joy in that oversized gamecube over eternal suffering in hell any day, but that's me. If only I believed, I'm sure I would make a good christian. __________________ Something Completely Different

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~~TumorAttitude~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Purgatory Posts: 749	Oh my god, it looks like a giant cage. When I was a lil' churchie, I thought Heaven and Hell were different for everyone. But I guess if we're all programmed to lose our free will and lick God's ass for all of eternity, what I like vs. what you like won't be a problem.