Do we really exist?

Darkest Hour · 08-27-2009, 12:44 AM

When our eyes see things, they are merely acting as a lens. Kind of like a CD player lens reads a CD. Your brain then processes the information provided by your visual cortex and finally tells you what you are seeing. If you had a grasshopper, cat and a human all looking at the same "red" flower, the grasshopper would see it as red, the cat would see it as black and white, and the human would see it as red.

Every experience we have in this world through our 5 senses is all determined on how our brain is set up to receive the information. Obviously all animals are set up differently, so that is why i used the example above.

Everything we see that exists, is just a thought. A figment of our imagination. How could it not be.

So my question is, do you think we really exist? Or is everything we know just a product of our imagination?

crash_override · 08-27-2009, 12:54 AM

Oh no. Not again.

Did you just finish watching The Matrix trilogy?

Darkest Hour · 08-27-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crash_override

Oh no. Not again.

Did you just finish watching The Matrix trilogy?

Never even seen the matrix.

Schizotypic · 08-27-2009, 01:31 AM

I think therefor I am. Weather my reality is real or not is impossible to answer without knowing what real means. You might want to look up the word consciousness.

sleepy jack · 08-27-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Schizotypic

I think therefor I am.

I think not!

mr dave · 08-27-2009, 01:54 AM

i do

you don't

Guybrush · 08-27-2009, 02:26 AM

That kind of speculation is rather fruitless because there's no evidence that supports the hypothesis that we don't really exist. Actually, the universe behaves relatively predictable and so you still have to play along with the rules. You're probably not gonna say "this is all a dream so I might as well kill myself". Either way, you have a life and you're living it.

All that hypothesis can give you aside from cheapening our general understanding of the universe is perhaps a feeling of solipsism and existential dread.

mr dave · 08-27-2009, 02:32 AM

i think we exist because we're the only species (as far as i know) that can recognize that it can go extinct.

boo boo · 08-27-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour

When our eyes see things, they are merely acting as a lens. Kind of like a CD player lens reads a CD. Your brain then processes the information provided by your visual cortex and finally tells you what you are seeing. If you had a grasshopper, cat and a human all looking at the same "red" flower, the grasshopper would see it as red, the cat would see it as black and white, and the human would see it as red.

Every experience we have in this world through our 5 senses is all determined on how our brain is set up to receive the information. Obviously all animals are set up differently, so that is why i used the example above.

Everything we see that exists, is just a thought. A figment of our imagination. How could it not be.

So my question is, do you think we really exist? Or is everything we know just a product of our imagination?

You need to stop getting your philosophy lessions from science fiction movies.

TheBig3 · 08-27-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

You need to stop getting your philosophy lessions from science fiction movies.

I think rousseau had this idea as well.

08-27-2009, 12:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Darkest Hour Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 764	Do we really exist? When our eyes see things, they are merely acting as a lens. Kind of like a CD player lens reads a CD. Your brain then processes the information provided by your visual cortex and finally tells you what you are seeing. If you had a grasshopper, cat and a human all looking at the same "red" flower, the grasshopper would see it as red, the cat would see it as black and white, and the human would see it as red. Every experience we have in this world through our 5 senses is all determined on how our brain is set up to receive the information. Obviously all animals are set up differently, so that is why i used the example above. Everything we see that exists, is just a thought. A figment of our imagination. How could it not be. So my question is, do you think we really exist? Or is everything we know just a product of our imagination? __________________

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	That kind of speculation is rather fruitless because there's no evidence that supports the hypothesis that we don't really exist. Actually, the universe behaves relatively predictable and so you still have to play along with the rules. You're probably not gonna say "this is all a dream so I might as well kill myself". Either way, you have a life and you're living it. All that hypothesis can give you aside from cheapening our general understanding of the universe is perhaps a feeling of solipsism and existential dread. __________________ Something Completely Different

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Schizotypic Souls of Sound Sailors Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mojave Posts: 759	I think therefor I am. Weather my reality is real or not is impossible to answer without knowing what real means. You might want to look up the word consciousness.