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boo boo 08-27-2009 11:03 AM

Well it's true that things like color and sound is based on our own senses and perception. And god how stupid you'd have to be to just figure that out.

The whole idea that we're just figments of our own imaginations is just some stupid conclusion that pretentious stoner idiots come to after dropping a sh*tload of acid and reading one too many Phillip K Dick novels.

Burning Down 08-27-2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 725755)
So my question is, do you think we really exist? Or is everything we know just a product of our imagination?

What I really don't understand is your logic in this question. This is how I would explain it: If I'm thinking and know something, therefore I must have a brain of some kind, and therefore I must exist in some form or another.

Freebase Dali 08-27-2009 01:37 PM

Can we get a Darkest Hour filter installed?

boo boo 08-27-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 725964)
Can we get a Darkest Hour filter installed?

What a splendid idea.

So yeah, Yac, please do that.

Burning Down 08-27-2009 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 725964)
Can we get a Darkest Hour filter installed?

Isn't there an ignore list or something?

gunnels 08-27-2009 03:26 PM

uh...

Freebase Dali 08-27-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 726016)
Isn't there an ignore list or something?

LIFE doesn't have a fucking ignore list.
My statement was a social commentary.





I'm so totally using that as an excuse for everything I say that people misunderstand, from now on.

VeggieLover 08-27-2009 04:02 PM

Oh please everyone, this is a valid philisophical question. It's called solipsism, and the writers of the Matrix definitely had nothing to do with the formation of the theory. Of course, it's fairly safe to assume that we'll never know for sure (in fact, we probably wont ever know ANYTHING for sure) but i find it fun to play in the world of Quantum Physics and ponder on the fact that we as humans are both incredibly small and yet contain unimaginable potential that we haven't even come close to unlocking.

Our individual perceptions of reality are all we have to work off of. Everything that our minds or spirit or soul knows is based off of the signals we recieve from "reality." The real question arises when we stop to consider who "we" are -- the observer. Personally, i don't believe that a series of incrediblly complex chemical reactions suffices to create the creative observer that I know myself to be. Therefore, i believe in a soul. Whether or not my soul is the only one that really exists (or if it exists at all) is a bit confusing, but i happen to believe that i live in a realm of energy, with all the other souls of the universe (which includes the alternate dimensions that may or may not exist). Whether or not "Earth" actually exists or not is quite beside the point, because it is the way in which we experience one another -- nothing more, nothing less.

anyone else care to speculate?

Freebase Dali 08-27-2009 04:15 PM

Veggie... if you believe in anything at all, then you believe that you exist.
If you think reality isn't valid, then you aren't either. In which case, what you just said doesn't apply in this conversation. So go on not existing elsewhere.

VeggieLover 08-27-2009 04:20 PM

i dont believe the topic brought up was "do i really exist" or "do you really exist", I believe the thread is called "do we really exist" unless I am mistaken, WE refers to a group of people, ie. PLURAL. Just because I exist doesn't mean you exist. If you do not exist, there cannot therefore be a WE.
Also, the original post refered to the fact that everything the observer (ie. me) knows is based on signals recieved by the brain, thereby refering to the philisophical theory known as Solipsism which suggests that anything outside of the mind is unjustified. I believe that my comments were therefore, not only more on topic than anyone elses, but also a lot more helpful to the original poster.

I do actually know what I'm talking about.


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