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Neapolitan 07-24-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 709069)
Nooo. T.T I don't even know why this thread still exists.

Somebody says something. Somebody else shoots them down. They agree.

=P No more disagreeing.

I'm still thinking about what you said, I can't totally agree with everything I've read so far, so I don't know wether to agree with you or not.

Arya Stark 07-24-2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 709083)
I'm still thinking about what you said, I can't totally agree with everything I've read so far, so I don't know wether to agree with you or not.

Everything you say will be rebutted with something more intelligent.

Don't try.

What I said was said with ignorance. I hadn't done my homework. I hadn't researched what I was talking about. It was stupid.

Neapolitan 07-24-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar (Post 709097)
Everything you say will be rebutted with something more intelligent.

Don't try.

What I said was said with ignorance. I hadn't done my homework. I hadn't researched what I was talking about. It was stupid.

I was so suprised to find out that it was the 40th Anniversary of the Lunar Landing. I didn't say we did or didn't go to the moon, I'm taking the middle ground, I'm peading the 5th. So I'm not afraid of buttals or rebuttals.

I didn't do my homework either before I started this thread, and I am finding out so many interesting facts as I read people's post here. I'm learning as I go along.

Darkest Hour 07-24-2009 10:16 PM

how did the module land on the moon so easily if they had never landed on a surface with no gravity? Don't you think it would be harder than what they showed in the video?

Neapolitan 07-24-2009 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 709109)
how did the module land on the moon so easily if they had never landed on a surface with no gravity? Don't you think it would be harder than what they showed in the video?

The Moon's gravitational pull is only 17% of the Earth's, so the Module weighs less on the Moon and everything on it has to be scaled down too. I think the rocket have to exert less force and uses less fuel and has a weaker thrust to perform the same maneuvers on the Moon compared to a Module landing on the Earth. What would had happened if the Scientist got Gravitation pull of the Moon wrong? Or one buster rocket was off, would it make sense that the Module could flip upsidedown?

Astronomer 07-24-2009 10:32 PM

But the moon does have gravity and atmosphere anyway.

Freebase Dali 07-24-2009 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 709109)
how did the module land on the moon so easily if they had never landed on a surface with no gravity? Don't you think it would be harder than what they showed in the video?


If you think it would be easier for that clunky thing to land on Earth, in the desert, with gravity.... then you're sadly mistaken.
The blast power that would be needed to make a nice smooth landing on earth in that thing would be far more than the module was possibly capable of providing.
The fact that it's low power works in an environment with very little gravity. Besides, since there is no (significant) atmosphere on the moon, there isn't any friction burn, wind, etc.

You scientifically have more problems landing in our atmosphere than that of landing on the lunar surface.



What's funny, is that people use that argument you just used and they don't even realize that they don't need it. If they think it's all wool pull, then they can just say "it was so easy for it to land, because they used wire and pulleys in the studio."
And when you get around to proving that actually happened, you let me know.

Darkest Hour 07-24-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 709114)
The Moon's gravitational pull is only 17% of the Earth's, so the Module weighs less on the Moon and everything on it has to be scaled down too. I think the rocket have to exert less force and uses less fuel and has a weaker thrust to perform the same maneuvers on the Moon compared to a Module landing on the Earth. What would had happened if the Scientist got Gravitation pull of the Moon wrong? Or one buster rocket was off, would it make sense that the Module could flip upsidedown?

i would think no matter what they wouldn't be able to land perfectly the first try.

Darkest Hour 07-24-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 709119)
If you think it would be easier for that clunky thing to land on Earth, in the desert, with gravity.... then you're sadly mistaken.
The blast power that would be needed to make a nice smooth landing on earth in that thing would be far more than the module was possibly capable of providing.
The fact that it's low power works in an environment with very little gravity. Besides, since there is no (significant) atmosphere on the moon, there isn't any friction burn, wind, etc.

You scientifically have more problems landing in our atmosphere than that of landing on the lunar surface.



What's funny, is that people use that argument you just used and they don't even realize that they don't need it. If they think it's all wool pull, then they can just say "it was so easy for it to land, because they used wire and pulleys in the studio."
And when you get around to proving that actually happened, you let me know.

i'll take your word for it.

Freebase Dali 07-24-2009 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkest Hour (Post 709120)
i would think no matter what they wouldn't be able to land perfectly the first try.

Dude, these guys pilot space ships. They know how to operate thrust mechanics in space. They'd been in orbit before, remember?


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