Moon Landing?

TheCunningStunt · 05-30-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

The first mistake was assuming they used a regular, ordinary flag. If they had, it would have been a limp cloth and the colors wouldn't be visible ...kind of a big deal when you're the first folks on the moon... and the moon does have gravity, so with a regular flag, it wouldn't have stuck out at all. Nor would a regular flag be constantly in a waving position on earth. Nor would NASA be dumb enough to stage it and put a blowing fan in front of the flag knowing full well that everyone knew there wasn't an atmosphere or wind on the moon.

The flag was apparently made with a bendable rod through the top portion of of the flag fabric so that it would be extended and not sit there limp and indistinguishable. Otherwise you wouldn't see the flag and it would look completely lame. For people who managed to put guys on the moon, you'd think they'd have figured out a way for their flag to be visible for the recording. And you'll also notice that the flag only waved when it was moved, which explains the rest.

So the way the flag was made is the reason it was waving about, I suppose that's good enough for me. Like you say if they were gonna stage it why would they make it so painfully obvious? It'd be more obvious if the flag was static I guess.. But yeah like I said I've never really entertained the idea or been interested in the idea it was staged, it just seems to ludicrous. But that flag thing always made me wonder. I'm sure there will be a counter argument saying "yeah well if you believe the flag was made differently then you're naive, NASA obviously made a mistake and covered it up with that far fetched excuse that the flag was made differently."

But I'm safe in believing that it DID happen.

Freebase Dali · 05-30-2010, 12:40 AM

It's not even really about the way the flag was made. The rod was just to keep it extended. But the fact that there WAS a rod accounts for the waving motion when the flag was MOVED. If the flag had been waving all by itself with no one around, then it'd be a different story.

TheCunningStunt · 05-30-2010, 12:41 AM

Well that's good enough for me, poll seems like a pretty open and shut case. I love a good conspiracy, but the key word there is good.

Freebase Dali · 05-30-2010, 12:50 AM

I like a good conspiracy too, but I like debunking them more often. Or watching/learning the debunking.

I just recently watched a debunking of Zeitgeists religion parallel claims... lol.. wow... I can't believe how utterly false Zeitgeist was. To their credit, they were convincing... but when subjected to actual research, Zeitgeist's religion claims were completely put to shame. Debunks are good because you get new sources and get to compare the two opposing views where you may not have been able to do had you only watched the one biased opinion.

TheCunningStunt · 05-30-2010, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I like a good conspiracy too, but I like debunking them more often. Or watching/learning the debunking.

I just recently watched a debunking of Zeitgeists religion parallel claims... lol.. wow... I can't believe how utterly false Zeitgeist was. To their credit, they were convincing... but when subjected to actual research, Zeitgeist's religion claims were completely put to shame. Debunks are good because you get new sources and get to compare the two opposing views where you may not have been able to do had you only watched the one biased opinion.

I'm the opposite to you, I like the imagination and romance behind conspiracy theories. The Bemuda triangle eats people and planes and ships! Why debunk that?!

Courtney killed Kurt! Why prove that to be ludicrous? I like the few things that are questionable/up in the air as opposed to the actual facts.

Freebase Dali · 05-30-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCunningStunt

I'm the opposite to you, I like the imagination and romance behind conspiracy theories. The Bemuda triangle eats people and planes and ships! Why debunk that?!

Courtney killed Kurt! Why prove that to be ludicrous? I like the few things that are questionable/up in the air as opposed to the actual facts.

I get that point of view, as I like it too when I'm in the mood for it... but there's just something a little more amazing, to me, about the possibility of truth and knowledge, and the quest for it and the progress that is made to achieve it.
I'm not really a person to just rip the mystery out of everything for the sake of being a grinch... I just think there's more to be learned from what is discovered from previously unknown or assumed occurrences.

TheCunningStunt · 05-30-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali

I get that point of view, as I like it too when I'm in the mood for it... but there's just something a little more amazing, to me, about the possibility of truth and knowledge, and the quest for it and the progress that is made to achieve it.
I'm not really a person to just rip the mystery out of everything for the sake of being a grinch... I just think there's more to be learned from what is discovered from previously unknown or assumed occurrences.

Hmm, in some cases yes. Like moon landings and more relevant things. But who killed Kurt?! and Paul McCartney died in 1966. I like the mystery around them.

Like the Paul McCartney one there's 2 pictures of him, 1 before 66 and 1 after. Both with his wife/girlfriend (can't remember who it was) on one picture he was smaller than the other. I like the mystery behind that, even though common sense says - she was wearing different sized heals on each picture.

I'd rather know the nonsense behind things rather than cold hard facts that proves it wrong, even though knowledge and understanding would be useful I just find it too damn interesting to entertain nonsensical ideas rather than the facts.

Freebase Dali · 05-30-2010, 01:35 AM

I hear ya.
I definitely think things are interesting when there's a proposed mystery. The mystery is intriguing in itself, but the implication of possibility entertains the mind. I like it, but I don't consider it much different than watching a thriller movie. The only difference is the movie ends quickly. With real life conspiracies, it seems to me more like watching the movie half-way and formulating your own opinion and never watching the rest, because your own ending just seems good enough to justify it.
To me, that's more of a quest for entertainment than a quest for knowledge.

TheCunningStunt · 05-30-2010, 01:49 AM

Interesting spin on things, a conspiracy is like a puzzle and you have to invent your own pieces. I'd rather put the puzzle aside and just buy it. Water... that eats people.

God I hope that's true, even though if I did some proper research there would be cases of people going through the triangle and lived to tell the tale. Interesting way of looking at a conspiracy nonetheless.

Freebase Dali · 05-30-2010, 01:52 AM

I have to admit that the Bermuda Triangle thing is completely awesome and I'm rather content just pretending it's demonic or extradimensional or something. lol.

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05-30-2010, 12:40 AM	#152 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	It's not even really about the way the flag was made. The rod was just to keep it extended. But the fact that there WAS a rod accounts for the waving motion when the flag was MOVED. If the flag had been waving all by itself with no one around, then it'd be a different story.

05-30-2010, 12:41 AM	#153 (permalink)
TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	Well that's good enough for me, poll seems like a pretty open and shut case. I love a good conspiracy, but the key word there is good.

05-30-2010, 12:50 AM	#154 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I like a good conspiracy too, but I like debunking them more often. Or watching/learning the debunking. I just recently watched a debunking of Zeitgeists religion parallel claims... lol.. wow... I can't believe how utterly false Zeitgeist was. To their credit, they were convincing... but when subjected to actual research, Zeitgeist's religion claims were completely put to shame. Debunks are good because you get new sources and get to compare the two opposing views where you may not have been able to do had you only watched the one biased opinion.

05-30-2010, 01:35 AM	#158 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I hear ya. I definitely think things are interesting when there's a proposed mystery. The mystery is intriguing in itself, but the implication of possibility entertains the mind. I like it, but I don't consider it much different than watching a thriller movie. The only difference is the movie ends quickly. With real life conspiracies, it seems to me more like watching the movie half-way and formulating your own opinion and never watching the rest, because your own ending just seems good enough to justify it. To me, that's more of a quest for entertainment than a quest for knowledge.

05-30-2010, 01:49 AM	#159 (permalink)
TheCunningStunt love will tear you apart Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Manchester, UK. Posts: 5,107	Interesting spin on things, a conspiracy is like a puzzle and you have to invent your own pieces. I'd rather put the puzzle aside and just buy it. Water... that eats people. God I hope that's true, even though if I did some proper research there would be cases of people going through the triangle and lived to tell the tale. Interesting way of looking at a conspiracy nonetheless.

05-30-2010, 01:52 AM	#160 (permalink)
Freebase Dali Partying on the inside Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5,584	I have to admit that the Bermuda Triangle thing is completely awesome and I'm rather content just pretending it's demonic or extradimensional or something. lol.