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Old 06-19-2009, 04:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was under the assumption a flat tax was a flat amount.

Still if I'm wrong, the wealthier the people have been lately, the less they've been taxed. How's that fair?
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Old 06-19-2009, 04:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I was under the assumption a flat tax was a flat amount.

Still if I'm wrong, the wealthier the people have been lately, the less they've been taxed. How's that fair?
That's basically been the Bush tax policy. It shifted too much of the burden from the upper class to the middle class. I believe in a progressive tax system and I don't think the United States has really had one for a long time.
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That's basically been the Bush tax policy. It shifted too much of the burden from the upper class to the middle class. I believe in a progressive tax system and I don't think the United States has really had one for a long time.
Roughly 5% of the population pays over 90% of the taxes. Please explain how that is putting the burden on the middle class.
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Roughly 5% of the population pays over 90% of the taxes. Please explain how that is putting the burden on the middle class.
I don't really know what you're talking about here. The top percentage of the population received a tax cut that was over forty times that of people in the middle of the income scale and under those tax cuts they received a larger share of after-tax income, whereas again, the people below them received a a much smaller share then they would have without the tax cuts. Not to mention the top 2% of the population also controls over 90% of the wealth as well so treating it like they aren't seeing the benefits of the taxation (and only they are really) is sort of silly. Meanwhile over the past eight years the middle class shrunk and began to slip below poverty line. The correlation isn't that hard to see.
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I don't really know what you're talking about here. The top percentage of the population received a tax cut that was over forty times that of people in the middle of the income scale and under those tax cuts they received a larger share of after-tax income, whereas again, the people below them received a a much smaller share then they would have without the tax cuts. Not to mention the top 2% of the population also controls over 90% of the wealth as well so treating it like they aren't seeing the benefits of the taxation (and only they are really) is sort of silly. Meanwhile over the past eight years the middle class shrunk and began to slip below poverty line. The correlation isn't that hard to see.
You stated the middle class was shifted the burden. How when they pay less that 10% of the taxes are they shifted the burden? Of course if you use straight dollar amounts the percentages of any tax cut will favor those who pay more taxes. Your grasp on the economics behind this don't appear to be very strong.
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Roughly 5% of the population pays over 90% of the taxes. Please explain how that is putting the burden on the middle class.
I thought this was indisputable at this point? I haven't seen anyone disprove that. And for you folks who think it isn't fair that the wealthy get larger tax cuts, put yourself in their shoes. And don't tell me you'd be some saint who would gladly give your money to the government to spend how they choose. Everyone should be taxed the same. Why should you be penalized for being successful? Is that a crime? Let it be noted that I make $52,000 a year and I oppose higher taxes on ANYONE, even if I am to benefit because of it.
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I was under the assumption a flat tax was a flat amount.

Still if I'm wrong, the wealthier the people have been lately, the less they've been taxed. How's that fair?
You are wrong on both counts.
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