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My family will be happy to have health care now. So yeah, it's a start I guess. More changes to come hopefully.

IamAlejo

Well your welcome....I'm glad me and mine pays for it.

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asshat

....you'd be surprised by how many hard working people(just like your family) who can't afford healthcare.(like my family, if health care wasn't socialized in my country)....so you can cram a sock in it. I'm glad to see some compassion finally shown towards other human beings.

....was that "me"(you) for all those years, or was it more likely your parents?Some people aren't fortunate enough to have well-off mommies and daddies.

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Dr_Rez

No maybe not, but all those people who worked extra hard to earn there money (and also started with nothing) now must pay more in taxes. My entire family went from nothing to something do to sheer hard work, regardless of the huge loans and many hours worked.

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djchameleon

I read that article and I'm pretty sure they didn't say anything about more taxes are going to have to be paid by the individuals for this new plan. They are cutting corners to pay for it so that middle class workers don't have to pay more in taxes for it.

asshat

.....what if while trying to go from something to nothing, one of your family members was struck with cancer,multiple sclerosis, or something equally as horrible? What if they were at the point where they hadn't earned enough to afford decent health care?....or they had to pay so much in health care costs that they were put even further into poverty.

....to alejo: the tens of millions of people without health insurance could give less than a shit about how learned you are in the constitution.

....how is health care any less important as a public service than education, or the police or firemen?

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IamAlejo

I've got to run to wor so I'll respond to the rest later, but really hard to tae your point seriously when you can't tell the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Greeeaaaattt education.

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asshat

....no I'm not too knowledgable about either. My point is that it's irelevant to what we were talking about....unless you're trying to imply that healthcare is being imposed by a tyrannical government...how dare they make you pay more in taxes so that some people can be treated in a humane way.

...just about every other time the government has shown a little compassion towards poorer folks there's been outrage and cries of "opression" by the richer folks...the 8 hour work day, minimum wage, stopping child labour, etc.

...what's really absurd is that health care is considered a privilege for people who have worked hard enough to afford it.You still live in a society with other people, and there is no way in hell that you'd be able to enjoy a higher standing of living without these people.

...my point is still valid, even though I worded it wrong.We're not living in the 18th century, you should be trying to argue why it isn't a good idea now. Capitalism wouldn't be able to sustain itself without making some concessions to social welfare. If we had stayed the course of 19th century "laissez-faire" societies, we'd probably all be communists by now.

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Barnard17

Maybe one day you can be glad you're helping fellow human beings have a decent quality of life, too.

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