Dr_Rez

By the time Im old enough to receive social security and such there wont be any.

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Hesher

And THAT is the fault of "defense" spending and tax cuts. Social security, education, the earth, public transit, actual border defense, coast guard, health care, green energy, the list goes on and on.

Son of JayJamJah

No it's not, it's because of misappropriated funds. Social Security was never cleared to be used for defense spending or any of the things you listed. It was for social security. Has their been frivolous spending? Of course always, but it wouldn't effect social security if people in the g'ment stopped making decision for people on what they should spend their earned income on.

That's like blaming McDonalds because someone borrowed $20 from you but a bunch of Big Macs and never paid you back.

And Rezz you're right, you'll never see that money.

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sleepy jack

What are you talking about? Bush and Clinton both "borrowed" from Social Security.

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Son of JayJamJah

Not legally.

Read the entire post so we don't clog up the thread.

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sleepy jack

That's still not accurate. Congress controls the purse and approves all things fiscal so it was done in a perfectly legal manner. Obviously it wasn't moral but that's more then you can expect.

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Son of JayJamJah

This is the most blow hard douche bag post in my music banter life but, if you think congress approving reappropriation of tax money without voter legislated mandate then you have no concept of how the United States Constitution (is supposed to) work(s).

I know you do get though because you did acknowledge the moral absurdity it all. That's my primary quarrel anyway.

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sleepy jack

If you're going to criticize me for not understanding the Constitution then maybe you should actually look into a bit more and realize the "voter" was always the elite, educated, affluent, etc in those times or to put it in shorter terms Marx's bourgeois. The Founding Fathers idea of how it was supposed to work had nothing to do with a "voter legislated mandate" and everything to do with the bourgeois and Congress doing whatever the hell they wanted. Which is more or less how the system operates now.

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Son of JayJamJah

double post

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sleepy jack

Someone brought in the high horse today!

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