IamAlejo

lmao please tell me you thin i'm quoting the declaration of independence to argue for a trillion dollar+ nationalized healthcare

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It's amazing to me that a lot of the people that were so mad about government wiretaps and how that information could be misused, etc, are comfortable with the thought of this. Wiretap info could be misused, but no chance in hell if they have all the info on their medical history [alcohol abuse, drug usage, mental health] won't be misused at all.

Throw on top the budget deficit last year was ~$480 billion. We are already projected to have ~$1.8 trillion this year. GREAT time to enact this.

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asshat

....whether health care is public or private, records of your medical history still exist...and the government could just easily spy on one as the other.
There's also this thing called "doctor-patient" confidentiality, that still exists in countries with public health care

....nobodies forcing you to use a public system. I'm glad it will be available to people who can't afford private health care though.

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I am just so confused by people who like socialized health care, I'd be embarrassed to except it, it's pathetic really that someone should be forced to give their earnings for someone else to receive health care.

Personal accountability For the Win as you kids say.

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Dr_Rez

It doesn't matter what they "say". Socialized health care will inevitably cause everyone's taxes to increase substantially at one point or another.

There is no better way to put it than this. Is it my responsibility to look after a nation with my paycheck?... No.

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djchameleon

Why are you whining about that? you have been doing it forever already though and plus you usually get it back anyways. They are just temporarily borrowing it.

Dr_Rez

By the time Im old enough to receive social security and such there wont be any.

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Hesher

And THAT is the fault of "defense" spending and tax cuts. Social security, education, the earth, public transit, actual border defense, coast guard, health care, green energy, the list goes on and on.

djchameleon

No i'm not talking about that.. I'm talking about that little refund check that you get every year. People seem to forget about that.

SATCHMO

Socialization of healthcare is the only answer. That or the total abolition of the health insurance industry. Let's make hospitals and doctors compete with each other just like every other type of business has too.

IamAlejo

Great idea. Abolish an entire industry in the middle of an economic downturn with unemployment already much higher than expected.



The timing of this is my biggest argument against it. Makes absolutely zero sense to do this right now. Throw that on top of all campaign stating there would be no tax on health benefits given to employees and he's already reneged on that stating he's giving it a thought.

The 'pubs in Congress are about as devoid of good leadership as the Democrats [who have Pelosi and Reid!], which leads to the Dems going about this completely the wrong way and the 'pubs drawing the wrong lines in the sand.

Throw in the fact that there isn't even a proposal for this...just his good ole "call for change" that will lead us to another inept "stimulus" bill on steroids. The fact that he supports a single payer system is one of the dumbest ideas I've heard of.

I have little to no doubt that there will be major change to healthcare. I'd be willing to bet it fails. We have leaders right now that have a penchant for throwing the government into things it knows nothing about. This idea is a great one in theory but not practical.

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