Minutes silences for particular events....

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 06-09-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Oh man you know what I hate? Waiting at a green light for a funeral to pass by. I mean, like, I probably didn't know the person or anything, why should I have to sit at a light for like a whole minute?

Not remotely the same thing. A moments silence is forced upon you rather than something passing by that you have to briefly endure and it tangles you with a particular cause or event and assumes your regret that said event took place.

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Respect for the dead is respect for the dead. It doesn't matter if your personal politics or beliefs don't align with those of the bereaved. You honor their feelings and sense of loss regardless and know they would do the same for you. There's no means of justifying showing a lack of respect toward someone that has suffered a loss through tragedy, no matter how "right" you are in your beliefs.

Nah i don't agree with that. I don't want to be instructed on how i should honor a particular event and if i supported the cause then i supported the deaths, not having a moments silence doesn't mean that i have been disrespectful either. And frankly i don't agree with respect for the dead in all circumstances. Theres many people that i would be pretty happy to see meet a swift death.

**Janszoon** · 06-09-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth Brown

Not remotely the same thing. A moments silence is forced upon you rather than something passing by that you have to briefly endure and it tangles you with a particular cause or event and assumes your regret that said event took place.

You're right, briefly enduring a pause in your day out of respect for the dead is completely different from briefly enduring a pause in your day out of respect for the dead.

SATCHMO · 06-09-2009, 09:53 PM

Is their a purpose to you being here other than aggravating other people and wasting their time?

Wayfarer · 06-09-2009, 09:53 PM

I think a lot of you are overlooking something very important here...

Aren't "moments of silence"...kind of ****ing stupid to begin with? What's the magic in not saying anything for a minute? I lay still, relatively quietly, for eight or so hours a night. There's an abundance of silent moments to commemorate all the lives of your dead relatives that I don't care about right there. It's just some idiotic tradition that doesn't mean anything, y'know, like taking off your hat when the national anthem is played. What's the point? Go on with the weird voodooed silence bullshit on your own time.

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 06-09-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

You're right, briefly enduring a pause in your day out of respect for the dead is completely different from briefly enduring a pause in your day out of respect for the dead.

Its the reason that your enduring a pause in your day though, thats the key difference.

SATCHMO · 06-09-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer

I think a lot of you are overlooking something very important here...

Aren't "moments of silence"...kind of ****ing stupid to begin with? What's the magic in not saying anything for a minute? I lay still, relatively quietly, for eight or so hours a night. There's an abundance of silent moments to commemorate all the lives of your dead relatives that I don't care about right there. It's just some idiotic tradition that doesn't mean anything, y'know, like taking off your hat when the national anthem is played. What's the point?

It is a ritual and a showing of respect. a moment of silence is a call to personal reflection.

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 06-09-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

Is their a purpose to you being here other than aggravating other people and wasting their time?

What the ****? In what way am i attempting to aggravate people? I asked a simple question on a particular issue and wante dto know others views, i haven't said anything remotely offensive.

**Janszoon** · 06-09-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gareth Brown

Its the reason that your enduring a pause in your day though, thats the key difference.

The reason in both cases is that someone died. Pretty simple.

~~Gareth Brown~~ · 06-09-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

The reason in both cases is that someone died. Pretty simple.

'sigh'. I'm not sure you quite follow my reasoning here.

Wayfarer · 06-09-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO

a moment of silence is a call to personal reflection.

Right, but why should I have to do it? What if, the night before, I was eating my girlfriend out following an evening of Chinese food and accidentally threw up egg foo yong all over her vagina and she freaked out and started batting me over the head with an illuminated lamp and set my hair on fire and caused me to spend the next several hours at the hospital and so I really wasn't in the mood for personal reflection? I think one of the most respectful things we can do for the dead is do away with rather than perpetuate as many cretinous and unsought traditions/rituals that they unfortunately had to endure throughout their miserable existences as possible, don't you?

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Wayfarer Registered Abuser Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 573	I think a lot of you are overlooking something very important here... Aren't "moments of silence"...kind of ****ing stupid to begin with? What's the magic in not saying anything for a minute? I lay still, relatively quietly, for eight or so hours a night. There's an abundance of silent moments to commemorate all the lives of your dead relatives that I don't care about right there. It's just some idiotic tradition that doesn't mean anything, y'know, like taking off your hat when the national anthem is played. What's the point? Go on with the weird voodooed silence bullshit on your own time.