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Old 02-13-2006, 10:30 AM   #21 (permalink)
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On the other hand, perhaps it's just that those threads didn't kick off contrasting opinions from which discussion could flow.

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Old 02-13-2006, 10:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
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How many people here have gone hunting?
Bunch of guys, hanging out in the woods. I dunno, seems kinda ***.
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:11 PM   #23 (permalink)
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YOU read the article. He was approaching NOT in Cheneys path, Cheney spun round and before checking his path he shot.

"Whittington "came up from behind the vice president ... The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by God, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good.""

PEOPLE HALF BLIND SHOULD KNOW NOT TO GO HUNTING. IT IS RETARDED FOR PEOPLE TO LET THEIR EGO OVERTAKE THEIR ABILITY. THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT ACTS LIKE THIS ARE INDICATIVE BOTH TO CHENEYS ATTITUDE OF PEOPLE AROUND HIM (and in general), AND HIS OPINION OF HIS OWN CAPABILITIES. It just doesn't help that he hospitalised someone at the same time.

"Sorry I shot you, it's OK though! Afterall, I'm decrepid, half blind and we're in dark area it's pretty hard NOT to shoot my buddies in those conditions, ha! Not hunt in those conditions? Why would I do that, I ENJOY hunting! And look on the brightside, my shotguns ONLY loaded with pellets rather than full on bullets. Nobody liked your face anyway."

I cannot actually believe your peoples attitudes to shooting someone. "Never point your gun at something unless you intend to destroy it" is the sort of thing I gather they're taught in gun proficiency tests. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW HOW NOT TO SHOOT THEIR BUDDIES. If I had a slack jawed trigger happy redneck in a seat of such power I'd be shitting myself.
Alright, here I go trying to explain this. When you go hunting the hunters normally get in a group together, normally a straight line, so that people always know where everyone else is. The other elderly man left the line to go get a quail he shot.

Cheney was following a quail and as he shot he crossed the path of the elderly man, so the man got shot. It was a hunting mistake on both men, but that's about all you can stretch it to.

I still fail to see the big issue in all of this. Getting shot at that distance with pellets is about the same look as having chickenpox. It does no real damage at all.
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If people were wandering around forests giving out chicken pox it would be fine?

Bull****. If you cannot find a hobby that doesn't creat constant risk of hurting friends, don't have a hobby.
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:47 PM   #25 (permalink)
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There are tons of hobbies that have risks of hurting people.

You enjoy going to shows? You ever skateboard? You enjoy driving a car?

And getting chickenpox and getting the appearance that you have chickenpox aren't even close to being the same.
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Skateboarding and driving generally put yourself at more risk than other people, and in the case of driving there's generally far more safety and skill surrounding it. Largely because race tracks are a one way system for a start. I'm also missing the part where race drivers and skateboarders go out of their way to run over animals ...

Please excuse me if I don't condone sports that involve peppering animals, and sometimes humans, with high velocity metal pellets. Please excuse me if I even less condone the aged and half blind to wander around with loaded guns in dark conditions. But then again, he enjoys the sport. It MUST be fine. He should know better but his inability to make mature decisions regarding his friends lives reflects nothing on his ability to have a large hand in running one of the largest countries in the world.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:21 PM   #27 (permalink)
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You truly know nothing about hunting. The situation was much more the friend's fault than that of Cheney's.

I'm not asking for you to condone the sport.
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Someone got shot in the U.S. & we`re supposed to be shocked by this?
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:28 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Actually Cheney was trying to take this guy out. He knew to much. Figured he'd take him out to the range and take him out with the good ole "accidental hunting mistake". Works every time.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:31 PM   #30 (permalink)
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You truly know nothing about hunting. The situation was much more the friend's fault than that of Cheney's.

"There WERE three people here. Now there are two. I do not know where the third person is. I shall continue shooting anyway!"

Seems a nobrainer, "more" his fault doesn't counter into it. He's not the second post powerful man in the country.
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