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Old 05-28-2009, 09:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You can't blame media for people being idiots. The idea of TV shows "snarkifying" things is on par with blaming Mortal Kombat for violent youths.
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Old 05-28-2009, 10:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Why is it the fault of the creators if some dumbasses think it's a serious news source?
Its not their fault. But they can't determine what the creation is once its out there.

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You can't blame media for people being idiots. The idea of TV shows "snarkifying" things is on par with blaming Mortal Kombat for violent youths.
I think they were probably idiots prior to Jon Stewart taking over. I'm suggesting this ushered in a new era of response that lacked any real thought and also (and this is what i think the show really did) made "clever" responses more appropriate.

I think pre-DS people just wouldn't have cared enough, or had known enough to respond. Now because their marketed to with juxtaposing news clips in little film vignette that these people feel not only that they can say something, but that their response either means something or their going to change peoples opinions.
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Old 05-29-2009, 09:40 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I think pre-DS people just wouldn't have cared enough, or had known enough to respond. Now because their marketed to with juxtaposing news clips in little film vignette that these people feel not only that they can say something, but that their response either means something or their going to change peoples opinions.
Based off of that paragraph, which people are you referring to? guests that go on the show or newscasters in general? or are you talking about viewers of the show?
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Old 05-29-2009, 09:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The viewers.
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Old 05-29-2009, 09:59 AM   #16 (permalink)
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yeah but you do know that the viewers are mostly college aged people right? I like the effect the show has on its viewers will the intended effect. It should get the viewers interested enough in a topic they didn't know about to actually go and research it outside of the show instead of just quoting lines they heard on the show.
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Didn't read the thread [ha] but you have to just respect it for what it's worth. It's on a comedy channel, where it's idea is to have people laugh and get them to turn in. If you use it as an actual news source that's slightly pathetic.

That said, I do believe it is part of the reasoning as to why the potus position is not put in nearly the high respect and regard it deserves anymore. The amount of things people say about the potus in a straight disrespectful manner is disturbing and and pathetic.
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y It should get the viewers interested enough in a topic they didn't know about to actually go and research it outside of the show instead of just quoting lines they heard on the show.
That might happen for 1 out of 20. The rest just become emboldened in their snarkiness.

I have heard a lot more lines from the show in conversation then I have people with a new found interest in the political process or foreign affairs.
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Old 05-29-2009, 03:08 PM   #19 (permalink)
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It's a comedy show.

Since when is comedy ever supposed to be unbiased?

If you're expecting serious journalism from shows that air right alongside a cartoon which features characters like a pot smoking towel and an anthropomorphic piece of fecal matter in a Santa hat, then you have problems you need to deal with.
It's a comedy show with a specific agenda. And the idea of the thread was "Insightful Commentary or Lowering the Standard." I was agreeing with the latter.
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:33 PM   #20 (permalink)
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political satire has been around for as long as there have been politicians, as such whether or not the daily show is satire is irrelevant.

the fact that their target demographic (for marketing purposes) is high school seniors and first year university students is irrelevant.

i really do think these shows ARE lowering the standard of political discussion in the general public. there are a lot of people who recognize that it's satire yet don't bother following up with an actual factual news article. it's like the people who read the headline and infer the rest of the information based on it.

best example i can think of, a few years ago we had a provincial election (2006). one of the party leaders (a woman in her 40s) was being interviewed on the radio. she gets asked a question about where she draws her international views from. her legitimate answer - the daily show.

you could practically here the radio host's jaw hit the floor before trying to tack on some sort of response to try salvaging this political trainwreck's career. she obviously did not get elected.

it's not that the show is 'bad' but i think the way it presents itself so closely to the same way the news presents itself allows for a lot of lazy viewers to gloss over the actual details. it's as if the events and issues discussed within the show are simply plot points you can discuss with anyone out in public so long as you don't go past the surface of the issue.

it's the same logic that has morons eating fast food everyday because they figure a big mac meal is somehow healthy because there's a bit of lettuce on the burger and the fries started off as potatoes.
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