Don't Ask Don't Tell

adidasss · 05-26-2009, 01:59 PM

Yeah, wrong smiley.

Incidentally, how physical do people get when they're flirting and what would you consider inappropriate as far as come-ons from members of the same-sex?

IamAlejo · 05-26-2009, 01:59 PM

It's been a while since I've been posting, my smiley game will be up and running correctly soon enough.

crash_override · 05-26-2009, 02:04 PM

Dont ask Dont tell is ridiculous. It's no more legitmate than segregation, in fact it is segregation. Being in the military, and knowing many fellow service members who happen to be homo's, I believe you should be able to be open with it. I know one of my good friends in our unit who happens to be lesbian and has to conceal it as having a "roomate", and can't recieve the military benefits of being married like a straight couple can. It's unbelieveable that the Obama Administraion and the state of California, two of the most forward thinking goverment entities in the world, are now lapsing on the *** marriage and open military issues.

adidasss · 05-26-2009, 02:24 PM

I flirt with women...

TheBig3 · 05-26-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I flirt with women...

well we all know you're a douche, I think you're proving my point.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 05-26-2009, 06:40 PM

I believe they want to prevent sexual relationships between soldiers. That is why they keep men and women seperate. Unethical maybe, but it makes practical sense. I don't think people should get their feathers ruffled by this. It's not like there are not *** people currently serving, it's just a policy of keeping your sexual preferences to yourself.

Freebase Dali · 05-26-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonace

I believe they want to prevent sexual relationships between soldiers. That is why they keep men and women seperate. Unethical maybe, but it makes practical sense. I don't think people should get their feathers ruffled by this. It's not like there are not *** people currently serving, it's just a policy of keeping your sexual preferences to yourself.

They don't keep men and women separate, except for sleeping quarters obviously. (And also the slowly changing women in combat situation)
In fact, the only relationships that are prohibited between men and women in the armed forces are those between enlisted and officers, and those between non-commissioned officers and lower enlisted in the same unit. For instance: In the Army, as an E-4 or below, you would not be able to get with an E-5 or above.
It's simply a matter of avoiding favoritism within a unit. (which still goes on, both racially and sexually)

The homosexuality issue lies more at the heart of our still prevalent nonacceptance of the concept. When the military is involved with those matters, they are generally "allowed" to be more stringent than civilian life because of the detrimental roles of the men and women comprising such strictly controlled institutions.
Regardless of the obvious contradictory nature of the whole matter in relation to heterosexuals being able to express their sexuality, not to mention how African Americans' involvement in the military became common, we're still able to recognize the fact that it will take some time before this situation is rectified.

I see ourselves as a society becoming more accepting of homosexual rights and I think it's a good thing. I'm willing to bet everything that this whole issue will be resolved in time. All we can do until then is continue to educate people and provide insights into this kind of thing.

crash_override · 05-27-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridical Fiction

In fact, the only relationships that are prohibited between men and women in the armed forces are those between enlisted and officers, and those between non-commissioned officers and lower enlisted in the same unit. For instance: In the Army, as an E-4 or below, you would not be able to get with an E-5 or above.
It's simply a matter of avoiding favoritism within a unit. (which still goes on, both racially and sexually)

We all know it happens anyway though. especially on ships on deployment. Little E-2 and E-3 girls are always getting caught messing around with officers. Sometimes it get swept under the rug, I'm not exactly sure if any exchange of favors takes place but the whole thing is normally pretty shady. It's also no coincidence that the CO's assistant is always the most attractive female with an admin related rate. Sex plays a super huge role in the NAvy for sure.

TheBig3 · 05-26-2009, 06:53 PM

The romans seemed to think it promoted better on field fighting, and they dominated the known world.

Maybe we need more homosexuals in the military if we're going to win a multi-fronted war.

Double X · 05-26-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

The romans seemed to think it promoted better on field fighting, and they dominated the known world.

Maybe we need more homosexuals in the military if we're going to win a multi-fronted war.

Sacred Band Of Thebes...look them up on wikipedia or something. They were Greek, but still.

But Romans were great for different reasons...

05-26-2009, 01:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
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05-26-2009, 02:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
crash_override Seemingly Silenced Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,312	Dont ask Dont tell is ridiculous. It's no more legitmate than segregation, in fact it is segregation. Being in the military, and knowing many fellow service members who happen to be homo's, I believe you should be able to be open with it. I know one of my good friends in our unit who happens to be lesbian and has to conceal it as having a "roomate", and can't recieve the military benefits of being married like a straight couple can. It's unbelieveable that the Obama Administraion and the state of California, two of the most forward thinking goverment entities in the world, are now lapsing on the *** marriage and open military issues.

05-26-2009, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	I believe they want to prevent sexual relationships between soldiers. That is why they keep men and women seperate. Unethical maybe, but it makes practical sense. I don't think people should get their feathers ruffled by this. It's not like there are not *** people currently serving, it's just a policy of keeping your sexual preferences to yourself.