Gene Mutations (hands)

~~coryallen2~~ · 04-28-2009, 08:02 AM

What are some that you think are awesome or just plain stupid.

What do you think will be in store for these "gene mutations" in the future? Do you thikn their will be a "mad scientist" aspect of it?

Tore's bit:

Genes mutate all the time which important when it comes to giving rise to genetic diversity. You can think of genes as a piece of paper with a nice drawing on it. If you put that in a copier and make 100 copies, not all those papers are gonna be 100% identical. Genes mutate because of mutagens that are substances we get in our bodies, because of errors in replication of genes during mitosis or meiosis (cell splitting) or simply because of radiation or background radiation from space which we can do nothing about. In other words, genes mutate all the time - in you, me and all those rats crawling around in the sewers.

Genes make gene products, proteins, and a mutated gene could make a protein with the same function as the "unmutated gene" (if those exist) but sometimes, the gene product is slightly altered so that function is less or completely destroyed.

Albinism in humans is caused by a mutation in the genetic pathway to producing melanin so that melanin prudction is less or totally disrupted.

Guybrush · 04-28-2009, 08:13 AM

For this thread to be fruitful, I think we need to clarify some terms. We can start with gene mutations.

Genes mutate all the time which important when it comes to giving rise to genetic diversity. You can think of genes as a piece of paper with a nice drawing on it. If you put that in a copier and make 100 copies, not all those papers are gonna be 100% identical. Genes mutate because of mutagens that are substances we get in our bodies, because of errors in replication of genes during mitosis or meiosis (cell splitting) or simply because of radiation or background radiation from space which we can do nothing about. In other words, genes mutate all the time - in you, me and all those rats crawling around in the sewers.

Genes make gene products, proteins, and a mutated gene could make a protein with the same function as the "unmutated gene" (if those exist) but sometimes, the gene product is slightly altered so that function is lessened or completely destroyed.

Albinism in humans is caused by a mutation in the genetic pathway to producing melanin so that melanin prudction is less or totally disrupted.

In other words, I suspect you didn't want to make a thread about mutated genes! I suspect you wanted to make a thread about genetically modified humans or animals.

~~coryallen2~~ · 04-28-2009, 08:15 AM

I will put that in my First post as your little bit on this thread but really im asking what mutations have they heard of animnal,plant(boring),human(EXCITING). Basically all of the above. but yeah gene mutations needs to be clarrifyed

Guybrush · 04-28-2009, 08:21 AM

Oh well .. I think blue eyes is a nice mutation.

~~coryallen2~~ · 04-28-2009, 08:23 AM

I have blue eyes hahahahahahahahah

Or having an arm crawling out of your ear is pretty sweet

Guybrush · 04-28-2009, 08:32 AM

A lot of the children born in Chernobyl after the disaster have various mutations and severe disabilities as a result.

~~coryallen2~~ · 04-28-2009, 08:38 AM

I think that is just so sad. But what gets me even more is Gene Mutations that can be avoided like F.A.S. (Fetal Alchol Syndrom). By baby sister has this. It's so sad she can't talk,she has no friend she can't go to the bathroom by herself it just sucks.

^ That's the common looks of a FAS baby.

Guybrush · 04-28-2009, 08:43 AM

Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is awful, but probably not caused by mutations as such. Alcohol can disrupt the development of the child, but I don't think it's because it causes mutations.

Anyways, I agree that it's awful and it's sad to hear that it's happened in your family. Pregnant women should stay off the juice!

~~coryallen2~~ · 04-28-2009, 08:45 AM

Yeah they should, But she is'nt my REAL sister she is a foster child, but makes no diffrence I treat her as my own sibiling. Anyways she just turned 7 and her mother was 14 when she had her. I mean this poor kid has Autism,FAS,and some other big word where she is missing a chromasone. I feel so sad. She speaks sign language so it has b een a learning experience for me. I actually like talkign with my hands.

Dona · 04-30-2009, 02:16 PM

Oh, it's so sad Coryallen!
And that child from Chernobyl...poor thing.
Well, for all i know, permanent gene mutations(in a race) like albinism need hundred even thousand years to happen. However mutations in certain individuals(FAS, autism and others) can happen because of stress, radioactivity, illnesses happening during pregnancy but even if the woman is healthy (as you said, errors during meiosis and mitosis).
I don't think think there will be the "mad scientist aspect". They can manipulate genes in one or a group of persons but that doesn't guarantee the continuation of it through generations. Only helpful for survival mutations (or harmless ones) may become permanent to humans. That's at least what Darwin's theory of evolution tells us.

04-28-2009, 08:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	Gene Mutations What are some that you think are awesome or just plain stupid. What do you think will be in store for these "gene mutations" in the future? Do you thikn their will be a "mad scientist" aspect of it? Tore's bit: Genes mutate all the time which important when it comes to giving rise to genetic diversity. You can think of genes as a piece of paper with a nice drawing on it. If you put that in a copier and make 100 copies, not all those papers are gonna be 100% identical. Genes mutate because of mutagens that are substances we get in our bodies, because of errors in replication of genes during mitosis or meiosis (cell splitting) or simply because of radiation or background radiation from space which we can do nothing about. In other words, genes mutate all the time - in you, me and all those rats crawling around in the sewers. Genes make gene products, proteins, and a mutated gene could make a protein with the same function as the "unmutated gene" (if those exist) but sometimes, the gene product is slightly altered so that function is less or completely destroyed. Albinism in humans is caused by a mutation in the genetic pathway to producing melanin so that melanin prudction is less or totally disrupted. Last edited by coryallen2; 04-28-2009 at 08:16 AM.

04-28-2009, 08:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	For this thread to be fruitful, I think we need to clarify some terms. We can start with gene mutations. Genes mutate all the time which important when it comes to giving rise to genetic diversity. You can think of genes as a piece of paper with a nice drawing on it. If you put that in a copier and make 100 copies, not all those papers are gonna be 100% identical. Genes mutate because of mutagens that are substances we get in our bodies, because of errors in replication of genes during mitosis or meiosis (cell splitting) or simply because of radiation or background radiation from space which we can do nothing about. In other words, genes mutate all the time - in you, me and all those rats crawling around in the sewers. Genes make gene products, proteins, and a mutated gene could make a protein with the same function as the "unmutated gene" (if those exist) but sometimes, the gene product is slightly altered so that function is lessened or completely destroyed. Albinism in humans is caused by a mutation in the genetic pathway to producing melanin so that melanin prudction is less or totally disrupted. In other words, I suspect you didn't want to make a thread about mutated genes! I suspect you wanted to make a thread about genetically modified humans or animals. __________________ Something Completely Different

04-28-2009, 08:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Oh well .. I think blue eyes is a nice mutation. __________________ Something Completely Different

04-28-2009, 08:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	A lot of the children born in Chernobyl after the disaster have various mutations and severe disabilities as a result. __________________ Something Completely Different

04-28-2009, 08:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is awful, but probably not caused by mutations as such. Alcohol can disrupt the development of the child, but I don't think it's because it causes mutations. Anyways, I agree that it's awful and it's sad to hear that it's happened in your family. Pregnant women should stay off the juice! __________________ Something Completely Different

04-28-2009, 08:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	I will put that in my First post as your little bit on this thread but really im asking what mutations have they heard of animnal,plant(boring),human(EXCITING). Basically all of the above. but yeah gene mutations needs to be clarrifyed

04-28-2009, 08:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	I have blue eyes hahahahahahahahah Or having an arm crawling out of your ear is pretty sweet

04-28-2009, 08:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	I think that is just so sad. But what gets me even more is Gene Mutations that can be avoided like F.A.S. (Fetal Alchol Syndrom). By baby sister has this. It's so sad she can't talk,she has no friend she can't go to the bathroom by herself it just sucks. ^ That's the common looks of a FAS baby.

04-28-2009, 08:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
~~coryallen2~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: lorain,ohio Posts: 909	Yeah they should, But she is'nt my REAL sister she is a foster child, but makes no diffrence I treat her as my own sibiling. Anyways she just turned 7 and her mother was 14 when she had her. I mean this poor kid has Autism,FAS,and some other big word where she is missing a chromasone. I feel so sad. She speaks sign language so it has b een a learning experience for me. I actually like talkign with my hands.

04-30-2009, 02:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dona Groupie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Albania Posts: 17	Oh, it's so sad Coryallen! And that child from Chernobyl...poor thing. Well, for all i know, permanent gene mutations(in a race) like albinism need hundred even thousand years to happen. However mutations in certain individuals(FAS, autism and others) can happen because of stress, radioactivity, illnesses happening during pregnancy but even if the woman is healthy (as you said, errors during meiosis and mitosis). I don't think think there will be the "mad scientist aspect". They can manipulate genes in one or a group of persons but that doesn't guarantee the continuation of it through generations. Only helpful for survival mutations (or harmless ones) may become permanent to humans. That's at least what Darwin's theory of evolution tells us.