Should US Legalize Marijuana?

**Janszoon** · 02-03-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

I have a hard time believing using marijuana casually is safer than using alcohol casually so no not really.

Why do you have a hard time believing that? And what is your definition of casually? For that matter, what's your definition of abuse?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-03-2012, 09:41 AM

What I'm saying is who do you think would be the most healthy?
Someone who has a glass of wine with a meal every night or someone who smokes a joint every night.

**Janszoon** · 02-03-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

What I'm saying is who do you think would be the most healthy?
Someone who has a glass of wine with a meal every night or someone who smokes a joint every night.

I would say those things are not equivalent. A more accurate comparison would be between a puff or two and a glass of wine. I can't imagine either would have much of an impact on one's health.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 02-03-2012, 10:02 AM

Smoking anything isn't healthy, but that's not the only way marijuana can be consumed. You do have a point, however, as alcohol is one of the few recreational drugs with health benefits when used casually (such as a glass of red wine at dinner).

However, when abused I think it's definitely more harmful than marijuana.

Another thing people don't seem to remember (I'm not saying you don't, Urban, just folks in general) is that using marijuana doesn't always result in you getting "stoned", just as drinking doesn't always result in you getting "drunk". I'd be curious to see the long term effects of marijuana use in moderation, but to my knowledge no studies exist. Instead we had Reagan putting masks on chimps and suffocating the poor bastards. And those "studies" are still cited

FETCHER. · 02-03-2012, 10:03 AM

Well a few drinks isn't going to kill me so I agree that drinking in moderation is probably less harmful, but between daily smokers and daily drinkers I definitely vouch that cannabis is less harmful.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-03-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

A more accurate comparison would be between a puff or two and a glass of wine.

In a roundabout way that's pretty much why I don't think it should be legalised, that a few puffs has the same potency as a glass of wine or a can of beer. I think if it was legalised it would be much more open to abuse.

Decriminalised ? Sure, I don't have a problem with that. I don't think people should be prosecuted for having it and I don't have a problem with people who want to do it. I just think that legalising something that is much more potent than alcohol would be a mistake.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 02-03-2012, 11:29 AM

But by that logic shouldn't higher proofs of alcohol be illegal? Having a beer and having a shot is still having an alcoholic beverage but one is more potent. And the effects of alchohol and cannibus are hardly comparable.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 02-03-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan

But by that logic shouldn't higher proofs of alcohol be illegal?

In a lot of places they are.

Try finding black absinthe on a shop shelf.

Hell the european union banned cheese made with Unpasteurized milk, I want that sh*t legalised long before weeds is.

Phantom Limb · 02-03-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

In a roundabout way that's pretty much why I don't think it should be legalised, that a few puffs has the same potency as a glass of wine or a can of beer. I think if it was legalised it would be much more open to abuse.

Have you ever smoked before and/or do you even know anyone who has?

blastingas10 · 02-03-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

i don't think alcohol is ever harmful if you can control your drinking

it's widely known that it helps blood circulation and lessens heart disease in moderation

but as they say - beware of drunken revelry

Yes, but alcohol is more addictive than marijuana.

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You may be able to get more intoxicated from a joint than you can from a glass of wine, but that doesn't change the fact that the effects of marijuana intoxication aren't near as bad as alcohol. A few puffs will get your average stoner high for a few hours, and they are not likely to go back for more for at least a few hours. Your average drinker is more likely to want another glass after they've had just one, or however many it takes to get a little buzz. So, the fact that a small amount of marijuana is stronger than a small amount of alcohol is a good thing. Since you can get the desired effect from just a small amount of marijuana, you're a lot less likely to abuse it; compared to alcohol, which requires more abuse to get the desired effect. And of course, once you do reach that point of desired effect, the effects of alcohol are a lot more dangerous than the effects of marijuana.

02-03-2012, 09:41 AM	#522 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	What I'm saying is who do you think would be the most healthy? Someone who has a glass of wine with a meal every night or someone who smokes a joint every night. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

02-03-2012, 10:02 AM	#524 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	Smoking anything isn't healthy, but that's not the only way marijuana can be consumed. You do have a point, however, as alcohol is one of the few recreational drugs with health benefits when used casually (such as a glass of red wine at dinner). However, when abused I think it's definitely more harmful than marijuana. Another thing people don't seem to remember (I'm not saying you don't, Urban, just folks in general) is that using marijuana doesn't always result in you getting "stoned", just as drinking doesn't always result in you getting "drunk". I'd be curious to see the long term effects of marijuana use in moderation, but to my knowledge no studies exist. Instead we had Reagan putting masks on chimps and suffocating the poor bastards. And those "studies" are still cited

02-03-2012, 11:29 AM	#527 (permalink)
~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,538	But by that logic shouldn't higher proofs of alcohol be illegal? Having a beer and having a shot is still having an alcoholic beverage but one is more potent. And the effects of alchohol and cannibus are hardly comparable.